I Tried the BRAND NEW Version of Britain’s Most HATED High-Speed Train

The 80x's are mechanically a good train. The interior is entirely down to operator specification, or in the case of the original IETs – civil service specification. The 805/807 standard class seats are good. The standard class interior layout is probably as good a 'compromise' layout as you can get – 5 airlines rows to 2 windows, then 5 well aligned bays, then 5 airline rows to 2 windows again. Less decadent than perfectly aligned 2 rows to each window, but the vast majority of rows have good window views.

Like all IETs they look cheap and flimsy and I dread to think what the crash worthiness is like and how those seats would hold up under a crash. feel far safer on a 390

I didn't like the new Evero

It's so depressing that these are both 1) totally reasonable to describe as Britain's most hated high speed trains and 2) pretty much the only trains that british operators are ordering for long distance services, still, and after over a decade of ordering them

I see they're STILL putting in those awful Christmas tree reservation lights, which are complete overkill, and don't make for a relaxing journey. They should be designed to light only on arrival and departure at stations, or completely re-designed. Idiotic user experience. Not friendly for some neuro diversity either. The UK has some of the best designers in the world, yet we still keep putting hideous stark colours in our train interiors, rather than relaxing, muted tones.

Enjoyed the video – I’d be annoyed with the lack of catering to be honest. Although Avanti especially out of Liverpool have a very friendly team onboard. I’ll stick to the Pendolino I think

Good video

GWR – Didcot to Paddington was probably one of the most uncomfortable rides I have ever had. Metal bar in the seat actually cut off blood/nerves to my legs and bounced all over the place! Really miss the HST Class 43s and the lovely carriages.

I hate the black front. It's fooling no-one as everyone knows that it's black paint and not glass. Should be yellow 🟡

Not sure why I would pay more for 1 st class !

Very nice looking modern train imo, never had an issue with them, I wish I could drive them

Number one, 125 mph is not hi speed. Number two, that car doesn't look first class. Number three, the pricetag is out of the world. Number four, the catering is awful, even conceding some disruption in the supply line. I guess they don't want to upset the airlines.

First class just looks awful & way overpriced! Still probably better by Air….

It annoys me seeing so many English and European trains that don't match the platforms. This is starting to appear in the US too although we haven't kept up with trains on the order seen there. I think the nasty engineers of the US rail cabal are insinuating their way into the British and continental rail business. Not naming any projects, but rail culture is dead, and people don't understand how to attract passengers, from either the service or engineering perspective. On some level it's deliberate.

the 800's are nasty trains . on gwr we get a trolly sometimes… ifthey get though

I find it’s mainly enthusiastis who make loud noises regarding these Hitachi trains. Lack of padding doesn’t equal an uncomfortable train. And yes the train wobbles a bit. That’s the track. Everyone gets dewy eyed about the old mk3s, but I remember them bucking around too. The thing I love with the Hitachis is the space and the performance. I just don’t find them uncomfortable and I’m 6’2” and a bit fat. And that includes standard on GWR and LNER.

Trains in UK are pathetic. Prices exorbitant. No feel good environment.

One thing I'd have taken as an upgrade is greater luggage storage. Every time I've traveled on one of these things on a weekend or during holiday seasons there's been suitcases and bags bulging out of seats and blocking the aisles. It's as if whoever designed the damn things never thought that travelers might actually be carrying baggage with them.

みんな、出たばかりは良いことを言う。少し時間が経ってから慣れて正直な感想を言うようになる。。。批評と言うのは周囲に流されてしているうちは、評価を間違ってしまう。新しい=良い、とは限らないのだから、最初から酷評してもいいんだよ。

No-one appears to be mentioning that the Liverpool Lime Street – London Euston services have technically been downgraded. Prior to getting these Class 807 trains on the route, a Class 390 would operate the services – sometimes a 9 car, but more likely to be an 11 car trainset on the once hourly service. The last time I used the service, it took 2hrs 3mins to do the journey. Now Avanti have put these 7 car units on which are only capable of 110mph due to no tilting mechanism and the fact they've added further stops into the journey means it has increased the timings by approx 20-22 minutes meaning we are nearly back to where the journey times where when Virgin took over the franchise at 2hrs 40mins – some current services take longer than the 2hr 40 min journey time, putting the Liverpool London Service back to similar timings when BR/ Intercity ran 125/225 train sets which took upwards of 3 hrs to complete the journey. Another AH move is the fact that when Avanti took over the service from Virgin in 2019, both operators made out the city was 'underserved' and would be looking to schedule twice hourly services between Liverpool and London, but 6 years on, we're still we are only at the single train an hour when in compariosn, Manchester has four direct services per hour, which AFAIK has been increased from three when Virgin were the franchise owner. And to give us a further kick in the nuts, the prices for these services are absolutely ridiculous. It's now cheaper for me to drive to London and back than take the train and in some cases can be slightly quicker if making connections within London to other destinations like I normally do with the family.

鉄道の品質は①線路、②運行システム、③車両、だものなあ。鉄道の歴史が長いイギリスは①のコストが無駄に高くなるのがつらい所。