INEOS Grenadier VS TOYOTA Landcruiser 70

LandCruiser 76 series versus Ineos
Grenadiers. They’re both wagons.
They’re both solid axles. They both lock front and rear. There are so many similarities, including the power and torque
and the automatic transmission. So which is better? Which is the true test choice? Using my experience with over 10,000 cows,
I’m in the middle of setting these two vehicles up. Chopping and changing
between the two vehicles, putting them through the same to ride in the same situations, and
sometimes even sharing the same journey. One of which one
I like the most at the end of this. I might also provide you
with a unique insight. Which of these two mighty solid
axle vehicles would either suit you
well or not suit you at all? And as always, I’m going to be
brutally honest with all the vehicles. I both have some bad points. What I can’t get over time. Costly and frustrating. But I also have some really,
really good points and I’ll consider
both of these vehicles to be robust. Let’s get into it. Both of these vehicles look poorly modified and ready
for off roading, but at the beginning, one of these vehicles
has far more gear than the other. And that’s that one. And it’s hard to reveal
what this vehicle is lacking from stock. That the Ineos Grenadiers
in fact has from stock grenadier factory recovery points front and back,
both ends of the vehicle 70 series had to admit own a rear wheel track that actually lines up to 76
on the other hand. You got to correct that yourself. It’s narrower than the front by 100
mil overall. This GoPro footage really shows
how far out the wheel track is. The rear ladder. It’s a very simple thing to add. I had to get an aftermarket
one towbar from standard 76 series. You got to add that yourself,
and it’s a pain in the ass to the list continues. This will play a massive factor in a price summary towards
the end of this versus battle style. From steel River offroad tires,
spotlights, dual batteries and a secondary fuel filter with a water separator
pre wiring every way to the roof. Refused pre switched. It’s even pre-wired
for towing with a 500 and Naito in the rear
that I think is bloody awesome. And it’s not just
on the outside of the vehicle. Just wait till we get to the inside. Simple PowerPoint
to the back with a 70 series. You got to add that is a good seating
with heaters, sound deadening, two button one tooth for good luck,
six airbags versus two airbags in the 76. Am I missing anything? Oh yes, of course. The four wheel
drive tech and systems information like the tire pressure and temperature,
monitor coolant temperature down to the degree
transmission temps and full sound system. So you don’t have to add extra tech. We’ve got all the temperatures here
that I need to know. 76 on the other hand,
you get two USB and a shitty stereo. Oh my God, it’s got a pair of mirrors. Yes, the 70 series is really left
far behind. Only there’s two cupholders. But the one thing that annoys me
the most about it in your screen, I have integrated an armrest into the door
so I can’t promote my armrest. Look how big that is. However,
the 70 series does not have an armrest. These bloody cars
are this skinny little door. Good thing I’ve got one. So today you need one of these. You can get these on the website.
Shameless plug here. And the armrest is available in interior
gray suits. The 70 series, by the way. Sandy. My favorite bestseller. The black can’t go wrong
with the 70 series. If you want to monitor anything
other than what’s on the dash, you then have to add your own device. In iOS, Grenadier. Almost soundproof. LandCruiser 76. More on this soon. But first, which of these two vehicles
is most comfortable for a long drive? Am I going to your left
or am I going to go to your right? This is a hard one to work out because neither of those vehicles
are a complete comfy machine. The one that goes with sunnies. Both have some downfalls,
but some of these downfalls are going to be worse
for some people more than others. And I’m surprised
if you’re not aware of this one yet. The left foot thing,
the left foot left foot thing. Again, left foot thing. My left leg
feels like it’s in an airplane. My right leg feels like
it’s got freedom on a long drive. Am I going to get a sore leg
when you’re not wearing boots? It’s actually not too bad. But when you’re wearing boots,
I’ve got size 13. I’m six foot one. It does get a little bit
annoying with boots on. I’ve been driving with a boot on my foot
and it hasn’t bothered me, and only now that I’m thinking about it
is it bothering me a little bit? It’s. It’s really weird. It’s really strange. Coming to this conclusion. It only bothers me if I’m wearing boots. However, when you’re driving around
a winter in cold places in Australia, you’re not always going to be
taking your shoes off the 76 series. It’s like a tin shed on wheels. Can’t receiving noise from the road,
from rocks, the tires,
the wind, noise, even just sand. You will hear inside that vehicle,
the Ineos Grenadiers. It’s like a luxury car
when you compare it to the 70 series. With that said, which one takes
the crown for a long drive? This is more comfortable. What a long drive. Reason why you can move around
in your seat a lot more. To be honest, while some might be annoying
to some people, it’s definitely worth considering a noisy cab. I’m just used to it,
so I don’t really care. Sometimes a find in a quiet vehicle with
is that one noise that’s bothering you, but yeah, sounds a bit loose. It’s like having that one fly
as opposed to 10 or 20 different noises. Things. It got a bit rough. It’s to 10 or 20 different floors. Floors. So you don’t really care by that stage. I mean you can’t just
keep doing this right. So you just live with it. Oh they fly well, the floors are probably a bad analogy for that said, which is most comfortable off
road? Definitely don’t get tossed around
as much like that because it has the coil front and rear, a bit more boaty,
but definitely more comfortable. And this chair, which is a Recaro chair,
believe it or not, you are not moving. You are tucked in. That is so much more comfortable off road. Comparing the off road tech
between the vehicles, you can decide
which is best in that aspect. And just to begin with,
I’m going to have to mention the fact that the front wheel
track is still 100 mil wider overall, as opposed to the rear wheel
track in your idea. On the other hand, that one is
pretty much lining up the gearing. Six speed automatic in the 76 series. It’s great off road, very nice gearbox. However, you only get four gears
in low range if the initial Grenadier having eight speed in low range
with all I did. Normally when you’re sitting 40km/h low range,
you’d be grabbing the nuts off the car. It just makes for an awesome drive
in your screen of the off road tech. This vehicle has. This vehicle has full time four wheel drive, which means high range, low range
without locking to center and high range low range with locking
the center most might think the Ineos Grenadiers is a most confusing system
when it comes to off roading. There is so much to comprehend,
it’s insane, but in this area is where the Grenadier
actually comes into its own compared to the 76 system
and what seems like a very simple four draw system on a 70 series
because it is a basic vehicle, there are three main annoyances
70 series is a pothole drive, so you have to click this manually
to get it into 4×4. Having to get out with a wheel
rice is a bit annoying to be honest, and the second annoyance is the fact that you cannot
use two draws in low range hearing. Why would you want to do that? Well, if you want to reverse up a caravan
or a big boat, check the manual locking hub. I can set it to three. I can go low range. I can reverse the auto unlock version. You have no choice. There’s no way of putting it
into free autopilot. We did before, right? But the understanding behind this auto
manual locking system is the biggest issue
with the seven series, and the most complex one to try
and understand two high to four high. You can’t do that if you’re an auto. You have to stop in locked.
You can do that. This is where you can unintentionally
destroy your drive. And I highly encourage you
to head over there and have a look. If you have a auto manual locking hub,
the initial screen idea, on the other hand, is a full time full buffer,
which means you only really have to lock the center differential
when things get a bit serious. That took a bit to get off. Hey, more importantly,
you can lock the sensitive, but having the ability to go low range
without locking the center means you can reverse speed. Boats, caravans, things like that
without having to worry about your whole drive long finding out
which is a good thing. Moving from there, we got to go up here. This is your front section. It’s a good system once you know it. However, if you only use this vehicle every now
and then for full driving, it might be a bit of a headache
to try and work the system out. Can’t get the rear lock die because it has firmer fans. You can activate waiting mode. It will turn the fans off. So when you go through water,
it’s not going to mess with that system. That alone is something
you have to think about in the 76. It’s more or less super stupid. However, too much of this could snap a fan’s life,
but it’s very wrong. And we’ve seen this happen once. Well, can progress is real. Both these vehicles have done a very
similar thing when it comes to space. So this is bigger than that. The width is the same because I’m
measuring between the wheel arches. Anything above the wheel arches
I consider that as not usable space. It’s usually we just shove
all kinds of shit in there, but the space we’re going to use it
to have semi permanent mounted things or a set of drawers or something.
That’s the space to work with. This is deeper that way by 100 mil,
but this has a disadvantage and that’s the power I have to put a power box in here
or some kind of power set up. So I’ve had to add that, look how much
real estate that takes up in the back. The depth that I’ve had the advantage of
with this car is now gone. They are both more or less
matched for rear cargo space. Both vehicles have barn doors,
but there’s a difference. That door is a lot smaller and I find that is pretty difficult
to get in, especially if your car’s dirty, you know
you’re going to get yourself dirty. The bonus though, this door is bigger. It opens wider and it’s got a gas drop opening
this door, it’s a much better size. You could even see if the fridge was over
a bit off, but I should get that in and out
without even opening this door. It doesn’t have a gas strut, so you must park a level ground,
otherwise this can happen to you. Oh geez. It’d be nice to have a little strut
that would. And one other thing. That’s as far as it opens. If you force it any more than that,
it could contact the light on the back, perhaps crush it. I had to fit a spacer
just to fit the bigger tire on the back, which is most fuel efficient. 76. The Ineos Grenadiers, on the other hand,
it has inoculated tank. That’s probably not enough. Uses roughly two more liters per 100. However, when it’s off road
it seems to be amplified, and that’s a bit of an issue
when it only has a 90 liter tank, something I’ve experienced firsthand. And we’re on our way to scale springs now. Before we can get there,
I’ve got to refuel. In fact, the 76 has 50% more range
than the Ineos Grenadiers. It means you’ve got to carry
a lot more extra fuel with this one. However, there are plenty of effective
solutions found. This is the on expedition HQ 30l. It mounts over the fuel, but the reality is
the cost of all that would be around the same cost of increasing the fuel
tank on the 76 and speaking of cost, here comes a deal breaker. For most people we’re talking price. And when it comes to price, there is a
massive difference between these two. The Ineos screen
India $118,000 for the trial master. The 76 series,
on the other hand, is 88,000, which is still up there,
but things are about to get interesting. Let’s start adding all the bits and pieces
that the Grenadier has, but the 76 does not have. Let’s get a rear track correction
for the 76. Yes, you can do it for $200. It’s also upwards of $4,000. Sound deadening, $1,000 Recaro seats,
three and a half grand each. And that doesn’t even include the back
seat, towbar, two wiring harness, full bar,
rebar, recovery points, front and rear, dual battery system, free wiring,
all laid out pre fuze and pre switched. Honestly, hard to gauge. So let’s just say two and a half grand
rear door ladder off road, all terrain tires, spotlights, secondary fuel filter
with water separator breathers, a tire pressure monitoring system, a scan gauge
and add of all those things up $25,000. And that’s being quite generous. And that brings the 76
series up to $113,000. That’s only $5,000 difference. But yes, there’s another boss who is
installing all of this to that vehicle. Most people wouldn’t be installing
half of this stuff. Let’s add labor. Let’s be really generous to, say, $8,000. I mean, when you think about the wiring,
there’s a lot of work in that. The pre lighting, the wiring price,
which the pre fused. So we’re now looking at $121,000. It’s now more expensive
than any Oscar in India. But hang on a minute. What if we want to convert it
like the Ineos Grenadiers. We want flex like the Ineos Grenadiers. Oh, let’s just slap another $20,000 on. Thank you very much. And we now have a coil converted
76 series LandCruiser at the value of $141,000. And for those who have actually gone
through this process, you will know that $141,000 overall spent on the car. It’s probably not feasible unless
you’re doing most of the install yourself. All of this stuff is aftermarket. What kind of vehicle warranty are
we left with now? This is where the Ineos Grenadiers to me
triumphs over the 76 series. What do you think? Which do you think
is the best value for money, and which do you think
is the smartest idea? Because the seven series
has so much history, do you think that that alone
still holds it over? The Ineos Grenadiers? I would really
like to know what you think.

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45 Comments

  1. The items missing in Toyota are compensated in the durability. I’m in Kenya and want a car I’ll drive for 20 yrs with no mechanical issues. 76 all day every day

  2. Yes a good balanced review by Ronny. I have had one of the first single cab Hiluxes in Australia, since that I have had 3 other hiluxes, BJ42, 60 series, 80 series, just sold my 76 series and Bought a new Grenadier Wagon Trialmaster. 117 kms on the clock. I love it….they are a bit quirky at first but once you navigate the cockpit it's amazing. It's our desert travelling vehicle…..On another point Ronny made re upgrading the 76….I spent $41k to make it sort of pretty good.

  3. I will never like Quasimodo or Frankenstein in the face of this INEOS!!! Everything collected from different places. Some made the chassis and others the engine. BMW engine (I hate BMW)! No matter how much money I will give for upgrading and tuning the Toyota, for me it is irreplaceable! In my country we have a saying: fun has no price!!!

  4. Having dug into an Ineos state side I can say there's certainly some underlying design flaws with them. Ive got 70 series envy here since we never got them and yes the Ineos is cool but the axles under the Ineos are glorified tractor axles, and thats not in a good way. The fulltime 4wd is a pain when it comes to driveline angles when lifting them, they start to vibrate really easy and get very squirrely on the road because the factory caster spec is atrocious.

  5. Grenadiers seem to come on the used market pretty soon. People seem to be annoyed by the driving experience and quirks. BMW drivetrain means short life is likely. The utilitarian Toyota will likely continue through the next ice age and beyond. I guess it depends on how much money you want to pump into a car over time. I reckon the Toyota is all about value over the years.

  6. L'ineos a trop de technologie électronique, évidemment que c'est plus confort mais pas sûr que dans le temps cela soit très résistant…
    Le toyota lui a fait ses preuves dans le temps mais oui en termes de technologies il est plus rustique

  7. If you owned a Land Cruiser before you don’t have any doubt. If is one of the most sell car in the world there is a reason. Expecially if you live in Africa

  8. Just imagine how brilliant the second itetration of the ineos grenadere will be, given how they knocked the ball out of the park, with their first version. Amazing!

  9. I get ur judgment but 70's series is abt performance not comfort and accessory … the stock lacks are well compensated on the road for a lot cheaper than the Ineos

  10. Looks like Ineos has all the bells whistles and the Toyota comes with only carpets but which is better when it comes to reliability, cost of maintenance etc I have a a 1994 JDM in California and love it.

  11. unfair review. &0 series were made to last and concur alot of beating you cant go to war with luxury sorrounding you. you need necessary things. Well for the Ineos they are trying to put both in one but reliability will ESCAPE the show.

  12. From the pictures, it seems the INEOS has much better visibility for the driver over-all. Which is a huge plus, no amount of $ can fix that for you.

  13. Where does reliability fit in when out and about and who can’t fix what on a grenadier when things go wrong? Off road vehicles are going to have some issue at some stage, which one of the two will get you there and back home?

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