Why Americans Leave the US for This Beach Town in Asia

Hey, it’s a big world out here. If you don’t like the things that are going on in your country, then go to another country. It’s just that simple. The good definitely outweighs the bad cuz without YouTube being that engine, you know, I couldn’t build up the community. If you like maybe a older guy that’s looking for something a little bit more laidback and settle, you ready to marriage, the treatment is a little different in like Southeast Asia in general. But, you know, I’ve been through certain things. I had people pop up on me. You know, I’ve been into little fights and everything. I’m definitely coming back to the name. Next time I’ll probably bring the wife down. It’s a beautiful thing to be able to travel and still do what you’re passionate about doing. YouTube and and and building a community, man. That’s the engine to help support your lifestyle. You’re going to meet some crazies, but you you’re going to meet by far way more better people and a different type of person. You’re meeting people that take risk, just are not engrossed with the problem of living in the West and complaining about the West. They did something about it. We’re back in Daang, Vietnam for the cost of living show. I’m pretty pumped today. We’re meeting a content creator, an American from Atlanta, Aaron, founder of the Blackman Travels Facebook group live page, as well as the trademark owner of Passport Bros. And he’s been all over the world and around Patilla, Thailand, everywhere for years. So, let’s meet him. What’s up, Aaron? What’s good? What’s good, man? How you doing, brother? Yeah, good. And let’s uh let’s just go for a little walk and Yeah. Traffic in Vietnam is not going to get better. Crazy. And um yeah, I mean really just tell me to start and the audience why you left America? Like when did that start and and how come? Well um I had been going back and forth to like the DR in Brazil like since 2017. Mhm. And I’ll be honest with you, you know, I had moderate success in America. I had a nice house and a couple of cars. And I found myself being overseas more and more. Like every year I would travel more and more. And then the lockdown happened, the uh the beer bug happened and we couldn’t travel nowhere. And I was going crazy, man. I swear I was like, I got to get up out of here. So when they uh you know stopped when we started traveling again, I went to Medigene, enjoyed it for 3 weeks, and I was like, you know what? I had like an epiphany. I was like, you know what? I’m out of here. Yeah. I’m done. I’m done. Came back, sold my house. eventually sold both my cars and it was just something different, man. I was like really enjoying being overseas. And I found myself being in the United States at home by myself, big ass house, like just like, “Okay, this ain’t it. Something’s missing. I’m I I couldn’t put my finger out at the time, but something was missing in my life.” And then the rest was history, man. So I’m trying to get a want to get a comparison too for the the audience like what’s life like in you know Georgia and Atlanta compared to what you then find the new life you start or find first in Colombia or Medí. Well you know back home you going to be around a lot of family and everything like that you know hanging out people graduating birthday parties and stuff. Uh I used to play a lot of poker and stuff uh in Atlanta. go to different poker events, you know, go to the gym, just basic, you know, everyday everyday stuff. Um, the dating culture is a little iffy, you know what I’m saying, back in Atlanta. Uh, but other than that, man, just family, home life. And then, you know, going to What about what about work life? Like, what’s your like, you know, your schedule, man? I say, so work. So, Atlanta has gotten really expensive, right? Mhm. So, I had pretty much two jobs and my own business in Atlanta. And if you don’t, man, if you don’t like have a home or something, like inflation just hit Atlanta like crazy now. It used to be an affordable city to live in. Not anymore. It’s like every other major city in the states now where everything is expensive. So So how many hours a week you working? And like but not doesn’t matter. I’m not I don’t need to know your like gross income or what you’re pulling in, but how many hours a week were you working and how much did you have like left over at the end of the month? You know, like after after all the bills, the house, the everything. I’ve had days where I work like 17 hours, man. Dave is going to work two days straight. I might do some Uber, a lift on the weekends. No, and this is on top of having a really good job, you know, and um having my own business. What did you do for work or what was it? So, um what’s your industry? So, I started off uh working for a television company, very popular television company uh in Atlanta, uh TBS, and then I would do like contractor work outside of that as well for Comcast. And then I also um years later, I would do logistics for the the postal service. Okay. So, that was like the main thing I did. Let’s head up this way. Okay. I’m I’m trying to say like traffic is pretty crazy everywhere in Vietnam, even in a beach town like the Nang. But I’m I’m trying to like direct us away from where the we’re most likely to get run over by a motor. Okay. So So yeah, you’re having like a a Yeah. proper, you know, corporate 9 toive job. Obviously like TBS Turner is a enormous uh you know, mega corporation. So you shift, you spend some time in DR Dominican Republic for anyone who doesn’t know. Then your first sort of destination abroad is Colombia and Medí. I’ve never been to that part of the world. I lived in in Mexico and, you know, traveled around Central America. What What’s your life like, you know, your day-to-day 9 to5 when you hit the ground and are living in Colombia for the first time? Um, well, you know, I I pretty much left the states with, you know, some rental income coming in from, you know, stuff like that. I also build mobile apps. That’s my thing, what I do now. But for the most part, man, it’s like a real laidback life. I mean the cost of living at that time in Medí was relatively cheap you know 3 400 bucks for an apartment. Um I don’t drive anywhere in Medí. So it was just awesome man. For the most part we would just go hang out learn Spanish and date you know. Yeah. I mean for real but I when I first moved to Mexico I mean that was I was a bit younger but that’s all I was doing right. I was just teaching English making enough money just to to pay the basics the food the drink the house etc. And then yeah, I was learning Spanish, dating, trying to make some local friends. There you go. So, so what was your what was your all-in cost of living in Medí when you first got there? Like your monthly total. Okay. So, my apartment in Pablato at um Patio Bonito was like $600 a month for a twobedroom, two bathroom. Damn. And um That’s good. That’s like here. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was it was good. It was like not too far from Parker. Mhm. And um $600 a month. You know, food is relatively cheap out there. There’s a lot of super healthy food in South America. Of course, fruits and vegetables. You can go to like the big uh big market out there. What’s that [ __ ] called? The exto. Yeah, go to exto. Stuff like that. And um I would say under 1,000, bro. Under a thousand. Under a thousand. And this is like like recently like post 2020 after co. This was like 2021 2022. Damn. Yeah. Wow. That’s I did not realize. Let’s go here. So, mind the truck and us maybe getting killed here, folks. We’re going to focus on not getting squished by double construction. Daang is [ __ ] booming. Let’s literally just let this truck do whatever it’s doing, right? I can always I can cut it out later, but if we get hit by a truck, we can’t. Right. Right. Right. Exactly. Wow. That’s super affordable. So then you When does the shift to Thailand and Southeast Asia happen and why? Okay. So, after Medí, um, a friend of mine, my name is Travel B. a pretty big channel, too. Mhm. U he went to Brazil and he was telling me how great Brazil was. And I’m like, “Oh, really? It’s better than like nothing could be better than Medí, right?” He was like, “No, man. Something Rio, Rio, Rio.” So, I said, “You know what? You know, my visa’s up. I’m headed to Rio. I’m headed to Brazil, right?” And I had already been to Brazil. So, I moved to uh Rio and I was in Rio for almost a year. Um it was it was awesome. It was it was great. But then he moved to Thailand, right? So it’s like and the crazy part is I’m the one that inspired him to start traveling, right? He started traveling. So So that’s good though, man. That means it like it comes full circle, right? Like the friends who influence you and then you start influencing them. It creates kind of momentum, right? Well, it creates a whole culture. And for for those people listening, watching, sorry about that. No, no worries. You’ve done that, too, right? you’ve made online groups and cultures and community online. So, when we get to the we finish this interview off, we talk about how you earn and make money online. We’ll definitely dive more into that uh community aspect, but for now, let’s let’s uh stay focused just on like Patia, cost of living there. What what you know, the shift from Colombia to Brazil and then to Thailand. What’s it cost in Thailand when you arrive there? What’s your life, your day-to-day look like? Oh, man. So I arrived in Thailand at one of the best times. It was pretty much during co but like at the tail end of it. So Pacia was a ghost town and they were giving away apartments man. $200 a month. Sea view, ocean view, apartment, everything was cheap. I mean they had a lot of restrictions. Um we had to take like blood test. It was like a lot of crazy stuff we had to do. Um I think we couldn’t be out. I know in Medí we couldn’t be outside but like 2 days out the week. That was crazy. Um but when I got to Thailand it was like it was a huge culture shock from coming from South America. Um cuz in South America is I’m going to say it’s relatively dangerous. I’m just going to be honest. Like it’s dangerous, right? Yeah, I agree 100%. Mexico is relatively dangerous statistically. It’s for real. So it was funny cuz my friend uh J was like, “Man, calm down.” Cuz I’m still like in South America mode when I’m like this and like you know. Yeah, you know, I’m like this, but here in Thailand, it’s not like that. No, you can walk 3:00 in the morning from the ATM counting your money and everything like that. You leave your cell phone somewhere, somebody find it, they say, “Hey, you lost your cell phone.” So, that was the adjustment. And it was relatively cheaper, too. So, I fell in love with Thailand. And along the way, do you like once you start being more settled in Thailand, is that when you sort of start to build like build a community or a group there or you are you building up the internet side hustle the entire way? Were you in on like I’m going to go be a full-time digital nomad from the second you flew out to Colombia or does it just kind of evolve naturally as you’re going? So, interesting story. I’m glad you asked that. Right. So, I went to Rio in 2017. Mhm. That’s when I started Black Man Travels. I started off originally as a blog. Yeah. Right. And then I noticed, okay, how do I get traffic to my blog? I started a Facebook group. Then I said, well, how do I get traffic to my Facebook group? I started a YouTube channel, right? And then during co my YouTube channel started to get bigger cuz nobody could travel. So, I was like one of the first guys that were actually interviewing guys that travel the world and I would ask them questions about Brazil and Colia and DR and my YouTube channel just started growing more and more. I started getting more and more traffic to my blog based on the YouTube channel. And the thing about YouTube and I know you experienced this too. Mhm. Even when you have a small channel, you might be somewhere and somebody recognizes. You be like, I only got 2,000 subs. How people recognize me? Yeah. Absolutely. It’s like it’s it’s surprising how it can happen from like almost day one, right? Like it really does people even though it’s an online thing, it really does uh connect people in person and in real life probably faster sometimes good, sometimes bad. I mean tell me about that. Have you had tell me about some of the good but also there’s the flip side of that is there can also be like negative or [ __ ] attention, right? There’s a lot of trolls. There’s a lot of there’s a lot of haters and I mean the reality is they’re probably in a basement. They’re the So they’re the people that haven’t left yet, right? They’re the people who did not did not get out of get the [ __ ] out of their bad situation back home are not living abroad and traveling. They’re still hating. But how is that experience? Like have you felt push back or like hatred or just, you know, most definitely most I’m probably one of the most controversial non-controversial person you will ever have on YouTube. I’ve been through all types of stuff. The good definitely outweighs the bad cuz without YouTube being that engine, you know, I couldn’t build up the community. But, you know, I’ve been through certain things. I had people pop up on me. You know, I’ve been into little fights and everything all based off little YouTube stuff, man. So, it’s it’s more a gift than a curse. Like, I I take the good with the bad with anything in life. And you got to understand that we’re doing something that a lot of people would like to do. And the thing is, most of the trolls don’t even have their own pictures on their accounts. they just, you know, pretty much hating. And that comes with every community, man. But yeah, it’s it’s it’s the the way the the way the platforms are set up, right? It’s very easy to be like anonymous [ __ ] one, anonymous loser two, anonymous loser three. And honest to God, sometimes I think when I see like five troll messages, I’m like, yo, this bro has five accounts. It’s the same dude. Same dude. Same dude, man. I I’ve had people that I tapped in on to like channels, they do live streams. Mhm. And they would make up whole stories about me. Like he was this guy that said I ignored him in medí like full fictional narrative. Full fictional. I said bro I never I came on the show I was like I’ve never met you a day in my life bro. He was like yeah you you walked off on me and I was trying to get introduce myself. I’m like bro I have no idea who you are. Yeah that’s I mean it’s it’s tough man. you like those kind of like human insecurities and slights and like I feel bad even sometimes about having like autoresponder emails and stuff, but the reality is like when you put yourself out there to try and help the most amount of people, you also put yourself out there for the criticism of the most amount of people, right? Like it goes if if you’re trying to serve and help more people, it means you’re giving more access to people to be negative or whatnot to you. So, okay. Well, I want to walk walk back around the corner here and sit down and have a coffee, but about the the process of like of doing that, like of of building the blog, the Facebook, the YouTube, cuz I do think people are curious, right? Like, everyone wants to know how you did it. And per personally, I feel like it’s a lot of hard work, but it’s also some luck, too, or being in the right place at the right time. So, tell people about your process over the last, I guess, 8 years of building it up. Um, and c certainly I think you’re successful. I mean, you know, just by the numbers, I know you are. So, I appreciate that, man. Um, it’s a lot of I was telling a friend of mine yesterday, I said, “Man, I wish I would have had a YouTube consultation before I started my travel channel cuz I would have got there so much faster.” Yes. Right. Um, but now, cuz I was giving him a lot of information on YouTube and the algorithm and tips and tricks and stuff like that. M but um the YouTube is the engine man and you got to take like I said before you got to take the good with the bad and you really don’t control how you go viral right see I went viral several times but it wasn’t like I did the video went viral it was it was either a a collaborative interview or something or it was like drama right like they like they got passport bros getting a fight in Thailand you know they got my picture up there with my black eyes I was like oh I saw it go viral but the thing is like they say all publicity is good publicity cuz I did you know marketing in school. It’s like that’s what kind of got me out there though. You see what I’m saying? So I mean yeah I had no idea about it. Did someone like did a random stranger pick a fight with you or what happened? Well I did I did a YouTube video um a guy had flatten some guy’s tires in Pacia. Right. Oh and I did a YouTube about it and I was like bro that’s the cornst thing you can ever do is flatten some guy’s tires over some argument. Yeah. And that guy that that guy did a video on saw me on New Year’s in the club and basically hit me like cold caught you. Yeah. Cold caught me. Snucked me basically. And I end up beating him up. But you know it’s just the fact that oh you got guys fighting in Thailand. They didn’t know the whole story. Yeah. But um yeah that’s that’s that’s one of them. It’s such a reality though too, right? That there’s um you know in like Canada and Britain we call it tall poppy syndrome, right? And I think one of the interesting things about YouTube social media is it’s like sure it’s created some like mega super famous people, but what it’s also done is it’s made like tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people like you and us who are just small independent creators have to deal with some of the random effects that that a normal, you know what I mean? Like have to deal with those effects of like being an influencer in a way you wouldn’t. And I I will say like yo, I I know it’s worse for women, man. Like the [ __ ] if you are out there considering being a content creator, you’re just a human, like leave people alone, man. Like the the hate that female and women creators get is insane. Like it’s like these are straight personal attacks, right? Mhm. Um but yeah, it is a disappointing thing. Uh the flip side of that though is there’s also a lot of rewards, right? Like I’ve made some real friends. I’ve learned about places I never would have seen without social media. And I hope I’m doing the same, right? I hope I’m letting people connect a real inerson social events to make friends and I’m giving people information about Southeast Asia and Vietnam that they would never have without my videos. So, um, let’s, uh, let’s grab a seat here at Scywag. Now, let’s get into all of the positive ways your life has been changed by by leaving Atlanta, by living abroad, by becoming a content creator and community builder. Yeah, man. Um, I I always been like a creative a creative guy. Like I had a film production company. I did a few independent films. I did a television show called Atlanta Homicide back in the day. It was kind of like Law and Order. Yeah. Uh but the the Atlanta part and uh it’s a beautiful thing to be able to travel and still do what you’re passionate about doing. you know, I still like to edit sometimes, but um yeah, YouTube and and and building a community, man. That’s the engine to help supporting your lifestyle, you know? It really it really is, man. And then, like I said, you’re going to meet some crazies, but you you’re going to meet by far way more better people and a different type of person. You’re meeting people that take risk, that just are not engrossed with the problem of living in the West and complaining about the West. they did something about it. And that way you’re meeting progressive people, people that’s like, “Hey, it’s a big world out here. If you don’t like the things that are going on in your country, then go to another country. It’s just that simple.” Just by the fact of being here, being abroad, the people you’re going to be even the ones who are like pessimistic are still going to be more likely to to actually solve or deal with their life problems cuz otherwise they wouldn’t be here, right? Mhm. Yeah. How long have you been living in Pato? I lived in Pathia for almost a year in 2023. I moved back to Medigene for about I think like six months. Then I moved to San Domingo for about 7 8 months. Now I’m back in Pathia. I did about about close to a year now. Yeah. Oh, damn. So you’re Yeah. You’re like a proper digital nomad jumping around. Yeah. I’ll be moving around, man. Okay. Okay. Well, let’s finish up then with a like basically a pros and cons of the three different places. I think ultimately it’s about the right fit for different people, right? So, how about we frame it as like who is Medí the best spot for? Who is San Domingo the best spot? And who is Thailand and Paya the best spot for? Like in your mind, you know who’s I got a perfect one. Lay on me. I got a perfect one. So, if you’re a younger guy, right? If you’re a younger guy and you want to do a lot of dating, you know, you like really in shape, you, you know, health and fitness, I would definitely say Colia in Brazil. Uh, for you, if you like maybe a older guy that’s looking for something a little bit more laidback and settled, you ready to do the marriage thing. And not to say you can’t get married in those countries as well, but I think the pace is a little different. The treatment is a little different in like Southeast Asia in general. That that’s that’s what I would say. Yeah. And and and also if you’re one of them guys that are let’s say safety matters a lot to you. Um I would say definitely you know Thailand versus you know South America. South America think about like say if we was in Medigene right now, right? And we were sitting like this. I’d be highly highly aware of like our surroundings because they and like our gear, right? They’ll come up and just rob you like that like in a heartbeat. And this happens on the regular. So that’s why I say if if you if you want more like something laidback and safety matters to you, I would say, you know, Thailand versus Yo, I mean, I know I come to Scot regular and I I host a meet up here, so I know the bartender, but like yeah, I also just left like a $2,000 camera with the bartender here when we went for a walk and like she’s cool. You know what I mean? Like I would not I don’t I trust that in Vietnam. We haven’t focused a lot on Vietnam in this interview cuz I know you’re this is really your first time here. my first couple days. First first couple days in in Daang in Vietnam. And what are your first impressions? You just got here. We met a couple days after you got here through AJ Wallace. You you’ve had a chance at least to feel it out a little bit even though it’s rainy season, low season. Mhm. What What do you think of the day? What do you think of Vietnam so far? So, I’m glad you mentioned that that it’s rainy season. I can’t really give a full, you know, um assessment when the weather is kind of like, you know, rainy and and and not cold, but a little, you know, damp. Oh, this is very cold for here. Yeah. Yeah, it’s it’s so I couldn’t really give a good assessment. I did go out uh what a couple nights ago. Had a great time. Mhm. So, I feel like the the jury is still out on, you know, what I like, but I would definitely be back. I would say that I would definitely be back. Yeah. Yeah. And the people are really awesome out here, man. Really welcoming. I mean, I’ve been doing I just been walking around recording. I think it’s like a content creator’s dream because in some countries like, you know, it’s hard to, you know, record something like that. You know what I’m They don’t want you really recording in certain areas and hey, I don’t want to be on camera, but out here they seem to be pretty open. Yeah, I agree with that statement, too. And I do think things can change, but in the certainly in the last five, six years I’ve been here, I mean, Vietnamese people have been nothing but open and welcoming and it’s an imposition to have foreigners in your country, right? So, of course, there comes with challenges. What about the like just the straight up ultimately the show is called the cost of living show with Evan, right? So the straight up right now in 2025 cost comparison paya versus daang housing, food, drinks, whatever the basics, it it seems to be a little cheaper here to be all honest with you. Um Pacia is still relatively very costefficient. Mhm. Um they got different apartments, nice very nice apartments for uh 10,000 15,000 bot which is like $300 to $400. That’s still there. Yeah. Um the food has kind of edged up a little bit more expensive as you know more westerners starting to come down to Thailand. You that’s thing I noticed is like the good thing about Thailand which I like is the fact that it’s such an international city that it’s like a price point that they don’t really want to go over where if you were in Colombia or north the west they just hike the prices up cuz they feel like Americans can afford them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Versus in, you know, places like Pia, you got the Russians, you got the Indians, you got the, you know, Israeli. So, you got a lot of people that their exchange rate might not be as high as Americans. So, they got to kind of have like a certain border, you know, cuz like Colombia is med expensive now all of a sudden, you know. I’m sure Mexico City is very expensive. Yeah. So, that’s because of the Westerners, the type of tourists that’s coming down there. I think the main and you know, patia, whatever. Thank you. Hello. Um, I think they’re both very affordable, right? Like I think ultimately you can live off $1,000, you can live off 25, you can live off $5,000. Up to you, your call. Unless I mean you you have to try to spend $5,000 in Vietnam. Yeah, you can do it, but you got to put you got to put in some effort. You got to be staying at like a nice resort and golfing every day or something like that. Mhm. So, if you were to come back to Daang Mhm. what would that look like? Would you consider living here? Is it more maybe a vacation destination for you and and like what do you you know I know it’s just been a couple days but give the give the viewer back home your sort of thoughts on like who this is for what this place might appeal to. I’m definitely coming back to the name. Um next time I’ll probably bring the wife down. Mhm. And this is like one of them spots that you know you come there for a couple of weeks during the high season. You know check it out. It’s something different culture. The food is amazing. I love the food. I went to a nice I can’t pronounce the Vietnamese restaurant I went to, but it was nice, right? Yeah. Uh yeah, this is this, you know, it’s only like a hour. They say it’s 2-hour flight. It’s like it’s an hour flight, but I was up and down basically. Direct, right? Yeah. Directly like got here really quickly. So, um it’s a process with the e visas. People got to keep in mind that, you know, it takes some time to get your visa back. It’s not a visa on arrival. So, you know, that’s a shocker cuz the airlines should technically tell you that. Yes, that’s right. It’s It’s like minimum three business days. I’ve had friends that too. So if you if you you got to do it at least a week in advance, I would say at least week advance. And I’ve also had trouble I don’t know if you did processing credit cards on their system. So sometimes I’ve had to like fill out the form three times cuz the first two times the credit card doesn’t process. Then you have to go back do that hit reload. We like put anything wrong, you know, they want the whole net. Yeah. All types of stuff. So yeah. Yeah. Um, well, there’s so much more I want to ask you still. I’m thinking about, you know, about your story of meeting your wife, all that and stuff, but man, let’s save it for another day. Appreciate having you on. Been real pleasure to meet you, man. And I’m really glad we could collaborate and hopefully we collaborate a bunch again. 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0:45 Why he sold everything, left USA and moved overseas
4:30 Cost of Living Abroad on $1000 a month
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10:55 How he built a profitable online side hustle
12:30 Dealing with trolls and hatred on Youtube and online
17:00 Is leaving USA and Moving Overseas worth it?
20:30 Should Americans move to Latin America or Southeast Asia?
22:15 First Impressions of Da Nang Vietnam
23:45 Cost of Living in Pattaya Thailand vs Da Nang Vietnam

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