There’s been a lot of controversy online around a digital nomad’s feature in Business Insider about why Bali’s “not worth” living in anymore. Locals and foreigners alike are offended, although many people agree with his position. Here are my thoughts and analysis. Find out about travel and remote work visas in the Digital Nomad Visa Database: https://bit.ly/DigitalNomadDatabase

Chapters:
00:00 Bali controversy explained
00:50 Why people are upset
2:10 Expat privilege
2:40 The truth about Bali
3:12 Russians and Ukranians
3:47 Story #1
4:35 Influencer culture
5:15 USA to Bali
5:55 Perpetual tourism
6:47 Income disparity
7:45 Cultural shock curve
9:15 Story #2
9:56 Honeymoon vs frustration
12:14 Traffic and pollution
13:00 Water and infrastructure
13:55 Vacation mindset
14:37 Golden visas
16:24 Too crowded?
17:43 Bali real estate market
18:49 Influencer problems
19:55 Illegal workers
21:32 Deportations and Russians
22:26 Traffic and pollution
23:27 Love-hate relationship with tourism
25:02 Are digital nomads to blame?
26:03 Scams and crime
26:32 Cost of living
28:12 Housing
28:35 Bali vs Europe
29:19 Romanticizing Bali
30:13 Who’s to blame?
31:00 Solutions
32:22 My perspective

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▶How I see the US after living abroad https://youtu.be/DO5x_tJBn7w
▶Why I love living abroad https://youtu.be/JmE3RuO3wOI
▶Downsides of living abroad https://youtu.be/ZwxGU1jhPKs
▶The Truth about long-term travel https://youtu.be/081o-hgQX8M

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Sources:
CNBC Make It Article: This 33-year-old left the U.S. for Bali and lives a ‘life of luxury’ on $2,233 a month—how he spends his money https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/12/this-33-year-old-left-the-us-for-bali-now-he-lives-on-74-a-day.html
Business Insider Article: I make $140,000 a year running a digital nomad agency from Bali — but here’s why it’s not worth living there anymore https://www.insider.com/bali-digital-nomad-cost-jobs-career-guide-lifestyle-2023-3
Olu Gbenro’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cp0Fv_Qsy2Y/?img_index=1
Bali Tourism: https://www.balitourismboard.org/files/By%20Region%202000-2005.pdf
Expats in Bali: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/24/paradise-paved-bali-rice-fields-disappear-beneath-hotels-bars
Coconuts Bali:
Russians in Bali: https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/3/15/they-dont-respect-us-russians-face-backlash-in-bali
Foreign Workers in Bali: https://indonesiaexpat.id/news/complaints-over-foreigners-working-illegally-in-bali-one-russian-arrested/
US State Dept Cultural Adjustment Report: https://www.state.gov/courses/answeringdifficultquestions/assets/m/resources/DifficultQuestions-CultureShock.pdf

Disclaimer: This video is for opinion and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute consulting or advice. Video descriptions may contain affiliate links for products that I use and like.

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37 Comments

  1. While it is great to adapt, learn the culture, obey the laws, learn the language, be respectful, etc.—in the long run it may not be enough. When other ex pats behave poorly, eventually the local mob comes for everyone, even if you weren’t the problem. So, take the local rumblings seriously, and get out if you have to, before it’s too late.

  2. The dude who made that video sure ain't gonna be welcomed as much as before 🤣. life ain't perfect and u can't Win em all dude. Problems will always be there in life and it ain't bcoz of the place but u. Indonesia have so much more to offer than just Bali, ull need a life time to explore such diversities if u have what it takes.

  3. Nah the fact is Bali has been trashed by too many Westerners moving in and hanging out. You’ve mangled a once beautiful culture, and now you’re on defense, trying to preserve some kind of reputation from the past.

  4. Kristin, This is an important and valuable video. With many who are digital nomads, they have more of a traveler mindset vs being a local and or resident mindset. I find this individual to have a rather entitled attitude. It seems ironic that anyone from Nigeria would complain about petty theft or scamming type behavior.

    I read about a Gay female couple who moved from California-this was during the height of the Health Crisis- to Bali & they posted on IG how affordable to live in Bali. They were telling people to come to Bali, they had overstayed their legal period to stay. Long story short, they were deported back to the US. Clearly they weren't culturally sensitive. Frist, Bali is a Muslim country and many of the locals who are gay, have to maintain a discrete position. They felt that these two ladies being foreigners were exempted from the same rules, they needed to follow.

    Ultimately, I think this person just got bored in Bali. Moving to Southern Europe, he's going to have a moral urban experience with all the benefits that entails.

  5. You are misusing the term "hypocritical" as most people do. Just because you change your mind in the future…whether you "evolved" or just "changed"…doesn't make it hypocritical. Hypocrisy must occur simultaneously to truly be hypocritical.

  6. a little tip here, as a local i might say Indonesian / balinese in general value politeness very highly. So being nice and polite can really get you a long way. the opposite also true i personally think the majority of problem of locals have toward tourist/foreigners here are mainly for the crime of being rude. We the local are not particularly law abiding citizen ourself, its not really strict country so as long as you’re being nice and polite your life will be way easier here.

    Also learn the language even a little and use it as often as you can (even if you’re still bad at it). If you think they are friendly now, wait until they hear you trying to speak their language. 😉

  7. As usual, a very good video. It is useful for "expats" to put things into perspective. The complaints we have (or some have) in the west about immigrants coming for a better life are actually similar, except that "western immigrants"/expats are extremely privileged. They might bring money to the country they moved to, but they are also responsible for changing the dynamic of the local market and have many unfair advantages compared to the locals. I think "western" tourists and expats should be more informed and aware of the impact they have on the locals. They complain from their privileged situation about "newcomers" who are participating in the change in the country's authenticity (when they were once part of that crowd themselves).

    I am Belgian, living in Canada, and currently in Mexico for a month. I am considering spending six months a year here if I can. However, I want to minimize the impact my project would have on the locals. I would prefer to live more like a local and participate in the local economy, rather than feeding the luxury real estate market targeting foreigners. I don't know if it is possible, and I don't know what the best approach is, but for expats coming to a country with money a local could only dream of, please adapt, invest in the local people, and don't promote yourself in a way that would make you appear as a colonizer in this new country. Of course, learn the language, customs, and culture. Understand that you are responsible for disturbing the balance and try to limit the impact you have or at least take things slow.

    By the way, I am still searching for the perfect place to live for me. It is not Canada for sure. Maybe South of Western Europe? This is another thing, with the change in the global world order, the movement of populations is real and hard to predict the future.

  8. Yeah, you are right. Too many Ukrainians and Russian refugees and they don't respect law in Bali. And many drunk in the streets, their culture. This is about cultural differences.

  9. I've come to appreciate your approach and analysis of the issues and this was another great example to give us thoughtful perspective, yet leaving us to decide for ourselves. I have spent some time vacationing in Asia (Japan & Thailand) and I can easily see where there could be some disillusionment after the honeymoon. Like many relationships, you get out of it what you put into it and it takes a certain amount of empathy to understand how to fit in. Everyone is a little different in what that means and another good reminder to me. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

  10. Bali can’t have it’s cake and eat it too. Local gov’t is blaming their cash cow to shift blame because they’ve failed to invest that tourist revenue in infrastructure to handle tourism.

  11. The real truth is you spend $2000 living in Bali trashy place,
    very hot in the afternoon, very humid, traffic everywhere
    Cockroaches, mosquitos are everywhere.
    groceries expensive, don't follow their dream,
    you must face reality.

  12. If you work you should pay tax, where is tax being paid in this case. If you are not doing that you are not contributing to society

  13. I think you're reading a bit too much into it. Fact is, as a digital nomad he would have known ALL the pros and cons before he left to Bali. It just suited him to talk it up for a while when he was building his business and then it suited him to trash when he had 'outgrown' Bali. Bali is the launching pad for thousands of influencers and digital nomads and it is simply a backdrop for their own egotistical psychodrama. He never had any intention of really making it his 'home' and actually grappling with or attempting to actually DO something to solve those problems. In fact he just made them worse, using resources, exacerbating inequality and then dropping Bali like a one night stand when he was sick of it. Don't have much sympathy for this guy.

  14. I literally just left Bali 3 days ago after 7 months of living there, and I agree with most of this guy’s points, but I don’t think he went about it the right way. And in regards to Bali being ruined: I think it depends on what you’re looking for. For me: it was and that’s why I left.

  15. Hey that guy is me. I appreciate the honest coverage. What I'm most proud of is that it opened up an important conversation. I'd be open to talking about it more on mine or your podcast to continue to open up the conversation. Let me know 🙂

  16. Thanks for your insightful video, Kristin. You mentioned a large influx of Russians and Ukrainians….is them fleeing the war in Ukraine creating anxieties resulting in aggression? Or is it another particular country whose nomads/tourists seem to have the most "entitlement" and aggression? Or is it anxiety about lack of money or struggling with the nomad lifestyle, or even an excess of wealth causing the problems? Is there an analysis anywhere that might reveal the cause? I agree the Balinese appear to be very welcoming and helpful, and it is sad that some visitors are rude and disrespectful to them.

  17. It seems to happen everywhere. There are just too many people on the planet and a certain percentage of them are thoughtless or careless. And just the sheer numbers can cause these issues. I've witnessed these same issues in California, Idaho, Montana, Florida, Vermont and where I am now in middle Tennessee. It seems to happen in most every location around the world that is somewhat idyllic to live. Word gets out. People flock to it. And then the volume of humans again create the same issues everybody wants to get away from. Just too many people shitting in the same pot.

  18. I think it's about preference. Every place on this earth has it own pro and con. I've never think that place is totally bad. My Thai frieds move to US because she feel her freedom is treated because of current military prime minister. A lot of my friends like Bali but I'm not especially food.

  19. Nice work Kristin, I've never been to Bali but apparently it has the same principle as most tourist places, go there for a good time, not a long time, don't outstay your welcome, otherwise it will chew you up and spit you out.

  20. American in Bali here, my wife is Indonesian and many of her friends are in hospitality. Accoding to the locals, the Russians just seem to be the rudest and most destructive bule. People are happy to hang when they know I'm American though.

  21. I believe if you live there give back to the community there. Stop bringing your entitlement to other counties. Adapt and learn to live there if not stay where you are

  22. experts say, you dont need a work permit in ANY country to work on your own business located "in" your home country… so wtf are you talking about? youre lost

  23. Canadian now building villas in Ubud, Bali. Fair wages. Learn the language. Proper licenses and tax. Local partnerships and general respect for the laws and customs. We work with locals to improve the infrastructure without trampling on the sacred. We have garbage and plastic clean ups and innovations. Many tourists and visa holders are great. Many are ignorant and obnoxious. Even something as simple as walking on the proper side of the road shows you are aware you are a respectful, grateful visitor.

  24. That Blak men is not respectful LOCAL BALINESE.
    He living in SAFETY COMMUNITIES MORE THAN IN HIS COUNTRY. And he’s look down on them, throwing bias information.

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