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It is remarkable how the meaning of affirmative action has evolved. Originally, it was implemented to address racism and provide opportunities for individuals who possess the qualifications to study at certain universities. However, it is now described as a means for granting opportunities to students who may not possess the same qualifications, potentially taking away spots from individuals with better qualifications.
Requiring higher scores for Asians than other races is clearly racial discrimination and anyone who can't see that is a hypocrite, unless they support racial discrimination. Funny how Asians are told they don't speak up enough and are too docile and then when they do speak up for their rights, they are told that they are selfish. Phuk off!
Like the zip code idea….maybe school zip code that student attended otherwise rich people will start buying houses in poor neighborhood, jacking up the price.
Just because someone doesn't get into Ivy league schools because their scores are lower, doesn't mean they can't get into another college. The top tier schools are not the only good schools. Get an education from whatever college and then work your way up, but the US needs to prioritize merit and support that goal and that doesn't include legacy admissions, which should be discontinued and the US should use government funds to support higher education.
By treating one group differently than another based on skin color in something as important as college admissions, you inevitably cause race wars 😢
I agree with what David said about amending past policies. Times change and America had to adapt with it in order to better achieve their past goals and create a better future for everyone
this happened because Trump packed the court. Asians are kidding themselves if they think they made this happen. What they did accomplish is to separate themselves from the Democratic Party agents and especially blacks and latinos in that party. An Asian could not run for school board as a Democrat and expect to get support. If you think conservatives will support Asian advancement- you already know they won't.
Lastly, college admissions will not change much. Asians will get rejected for their "personality" or some other reason and if the admission boards of these colleges are already stacked with liberals- there could be a backlash.
Asian are so new to politics in America, but this will be their first real lesson. Without liberal support, they are sitting ducks. They have no political clout today in either party.
Fantastic overall job being thorough to include differing perspectives while keeping it relatively concise. It’s a ton to unpack, yet David and Andrew managed to still keep their video structured and clear
I have always been for affirmative action to correct our past wrongs of slavery and civil rights discriminations. But apparently the Supreme Court's rationale for keeping affirmative action switched 25 years ago from correcting our past to promoting "diversity" and only for a limited time. Elite colleges have adopted this argument of diversity, but in practice they are hypocritically keeping their legacy admissions policy which is essentially anti-diversity. Regardless, I would still have been in favor of affirmative action, but the burden should have been on the entire population as a whole. Placing undue burden on Asian Americans is just reverse discrimination, pure and simple.
Race war…
The US has been going through multiple ethnic conflicts since colonizers got here.
The U.S. just likes to be dramatic about it
I'm from South Korea and in 1992, suffered from this issue, but in a different respect. I indicated in my College Admissions that I was 1) Born in South Korea, 2) Wanted to enter Aerospace Engineering. I was told point blank that Asians were not a minority when it came to the Engineering Majors. Now here is something that is rarely mention, but I think it should. I believe that Asian Americans constitute about, what 7% of overall American Population. Guess what the percentage of College freshman in Harvard that were of Asian background. Trust me, it was way more than 7%. I agree with the premise of a meritocracy, but Asians were not being harmed into getting into Harvard Admissions. Perhaps I'm wrong, but until they eliminate Legacy Admissions, I just cant see the merits of eliminating one form of Affirmative Action but not the other. And these Legacy students have all the advantages that their parents wealth can afford them; Private Schools, tutors, elite after school activities, social interactions with other wealthy families who have connections…
Don’t know how Asian people felt like they were screwed by “race based” admissions when looking at the numbers.
If Harvard thought Asians had bad personalities,
Then why were Asian people consistently the second highest admitted behind “white” people?
Harvard admitted Asians at 27.9% and Asians are 6.3% of the entire population
That’s 4 times higher
Asians are consistently admitted at at least twice the rate of African American and Latinos
Unless it’s an HBCU, All schools are like this.
Don’t know who told them
but if an Asian people gets looked over, it’s probably because a “black” or “Hispanic”
It’s because of European or legacy students.
Even with “race conscious” admissions, Harvard still had a below average diversity score
Trust. Affirmative action helped Asian people.
the immigration act of 1965 came right after the civil rights act of 1964
All benefits of the civil rights act went to immigrants.
The SAT test is white supremacy and illegal immigrant supremacy. Scrap that test
This isn’t going to turn out the way people think it will
NBA, NFL, MLB, etc etc…when it become evenly diverse don’t even talk to me about AA.
Chinese americans are the largest demographic of asian students. When the GOP turns towards war with china, this removing of AA will see more whites and a small amount of asians admitted, if any at all.
Asians have to understand that while they score on average higher than any one else, they are a small part of the entire US population which is predominated by whites.
In short, if 1000 asians are rejected, there are probably 3000 white americans with similar or slightly higher scores also rejected.
Now, there are also asians that got in because of AA. These asians will be booted out.
They will see they played themselves.
“Everyone’s selfish”
Politics in a nutshell
Y’all act like Asians aren’t the biggest group in Ivy Leagues. We now know where Asians stand I will be boycotting American Asian business. Don’t start no Asian cuisine in the black neighborhoods
Even if Asian people had more political
this is the U.S., every effort anyone makes to better themselves or their "people" is going to be used against someone else.
that's how divide and conquer works
People who hate diversity usually want assimilation into anglo-christian ideology
The U.S. is diverse. point blank.
People who are against diversity don't want Asians to be Asians. they want Asians to be anglos…
and people who are against diversity are usually against immigration.
What I find interesting is that Asians and white people will say things like we need to address this at the beginning, not at the elite level, as if Blacks haven't been having that conversation for over 100 years in this country. However, when it comes to actually fighting for policies that would improve K-12 education for everyone, Asians (and whites making this argument) don't show up to those conversations because they got what they need for their communities. Sometimes, even worse, when we have these conversations, they do show up, like in NY and Boston, but only advocate for the white supremacist status quo because they convinced themselves that's what's best for their community, disregarding that they live in a larger community. I guess even if you come from a collectivist society, you learn white supremacy very quickly when you immigrate here and situate Black people's children way out of your community and your mind.
Meanwhile, Blacks have never been so (solely) self-interested. Black people have fought for the rights of Asians for so many years, but the reciprocity seemed to end in the 70s as Asians' affluence rose while the state continued to enact targeted Anti-Black policies.
Many Asian families wouldn't even be here without the advocacy of Black folks, which makes this betrayal particularly sting. We understand as the group at the bottom, improving things helps everyone; however, as people arrange themselves closer to whiteness, they find it easier to align themselves with white supremacy instead of prosperity for all.
Before you question Black people caping for Asians, here are the receipts:
Frederick Douglass advocating for Chinese immigration in 1867 —> https://blackpast.org/african-american-history/1867-frederick-douglass-describes-composite-nation/
Japanese Civil rights activist Yuri Kochiyama formed a wonderful alliance with Malcolm X —> https://nytimes.com/2014/06/05/us/yuri-kochiyama-civil-rights-activist-dies-at-93.html#:~:text=Yuri%20Kochiyama%2C%20a%20civil%20rights,She%20was%2093.
Asian activists have long credited the civil rights movement as their model —> https://thoughtco.com/asian-american-civil-rights-movement-history-2834596
The funny thing is that AA effects white women more. 😂 oh and when they find that out. I can already feel the hate coming for a certain community. Good luck
Never seen anything wrong with Affirmative action, Asian were never effected by it. In the worlds eyes Asians never has a problem getting into college. That's why its sad they stopped AF.
Brilliant result. We should invest in poor communities (meaning more tax money to poor, minority areas) rather than enact AA.
The thing that annoys me is that this is such a non-issue!! Affirmative action is a freaking band-aid measure that doesn't fully address the racial disparities black people face, but helps a little. This is just a wedge issue for Republicans to galvanize their base around. It's so infuriating.
According to Harvard, African Americans make up 15.2% of adm. They make up 12.6% of US population. Hispanic/Latinos make up 12.6% of Harvard adm. They make up 18.9% of US pop. Asians make up 27.9% of Harvard adm while they make up 5.9% of us pop.
Asian people and white women benefit the most from Affirmative Action.
Not free preschool and free something, instead AFFORDABLE everything!!!!! Equal wages. ✊✊✊
Is Students for Fair Admissions involved in the legacy admissions lawsuit being filed now?
have they filed their own lawsuit against legacy admissions?
Any asian who has applied to college knows that colleges have quotas vs. asians and that asians need to score higher and do better to just be seen.
college counselors know how hard it is for asian clients to get into a top college
I’m glad AA admissions is abolished. Legacy admissions should also end.
I am Indian I will subscribe your video like share. How much will you pay me?
Why the education system have to be structured like a pyramid with so few allocation into colleges at the tip of the structure?
Wow, micro/ macro mentioning record broken on this episode 😮
23:44 Looooooolllllllll
What is the homeless ratio by ethnicity in California, why is the rest of the country copying a douche bag state?
Boba liberals GOOO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
The illusions that people have bought Into is that the majority in charge is unbiased. The majority was not unbiased in 1853 or 1923. And they certainly are not unbiased in 2023. And it's that biasness that has again been unleashed. Now, how does repeating a flawed act supposed to change to an unflawed act? People don't realize they are devoid of strong intelligence until its actually pushed in their faces.
Asians weren’t used,
They were double crossed
Why don't they have affirmative action in the NBA too. My man Jeremy Lin was in the NBA and he wasn't welcome by many inside the NBA, its time the NBA have the right amount of Asian American in each team, at least 2 out of 15. I will vote for the Fung Bros to be on the Golden States Warrior
Reparations for the harm done by institutional discrimination known as Affirmative Action. Blacks, Latinos, and white women need to study harder to get better grades instead of crying Victimhood for an era they were never even alive in. That's why there are HBCU's
Asians voting Dem is the issue. What's so interesting or likable about admitting people who need institutional discrimination to get in? And why no affirmative action in college sports?
Diversity in Critical Thinkers is much more important than in different skin colors.
I know you're trying to keep it light and you don't want to offend anyone, but this is perhaps one of the most important Asian American issues in decades. You need to take a stand. This is not a nuanced debate. This is not a "both sides" debate. This is not a "gray area." You are either for racism or against racism, and if you support affirmative action, congratulations, you are a racist. Rather than arguing for the merits of "good discrimination," the boba Asians just resort to the absurdly false talking point about Asians being pawns. That's intellectually feeble. We all know that the last thing boba Asians want to admit is that they support (anti-Asian) racism and they will throw up all kinds of smoke and ad hominem attacks to distract you from that fact.
Focus on improving K-12 by making it equal quality regardless of zip code. However, easier said than done of course with PTA, Civil right groups, Teacher Unions, State Rights groups making a mess of it. Hope a real Presidential contender can come in and lead the country.