The SLOW and DISAPPOINTING alternative to the Javelin… The Class 375
Next time, I’ll just take HS1!
Date of Travel: May 2023
Class of Travel: Standard Class (2nd Class)
Rolling Stock: Class 375 Electrostar
Type of Service: Ordinary Passenger
Operator: Southeastern
Train Number: 2W46
Origin: Dover Priory, Kent, United Kingdom (England)
Destination: Waterloo East, London, United Kingdom (England)
Cost of ticket: £7.25 ($9.35, €8.35)
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30 Comments
8:39 aww lil bro wanted to race #375 #707 #se 😅🚩
Do you know if the Eurail Pass is still NOT accepted on HS1?
I took it to Rochester and back on my pass without knowing this, but no one checked my ticket.
Dover used to have some much nicer stations close to the docks but they shut in the mid-90s ever since Eurostar made the train/ferry combo redundant!
I drive the class 375 in tsw2 lol
You go near to my home town Tunbridge Wells
Use to live in Maidstone on the Ashford line
Class 375 make me full asleep
Majority of the class 375 have plug sockets installed
A `homely feel` to a train toilet is not an expression one hears all that often !!
Harsh comment abt TSW3
Nice trains 3rd rail look much better than over head were having them in South wales looks messy
The 375/9s (3+2) are mostly used on this route as I believe its the busiest mainline route during peak. The 2-2 formation sets are commonly seen running to Hastings and sometimes London Charing Cross to Margate.
Also during summer the 3+2 sets are commonly seen running as 12 coach sets from London Victoria to Ramsgate via Margate as they get very busy during peak and off peak.
What I don’t understand is why during the last refurbishment they didn’t get plug sockets then?
Anyways hope you at least enjoyed the 100mph blast between Ashford and Tonbridge, nice to finally see a review on the Southeastern Mainline.
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I have a choice travelling into London of HS1 or conventional to London Victoria. For me it boils down to what part of London I need. I don't think there's a lot in it and if you don't get lumbered with the 375 9s then it's a comfortable ride.
This vid came out on my birthday
I have TSW3 and its great. Just like the old ones.
If you sit behind the cab sections of the train there’s 2-2 seats
You’ve been showing the baby change facilities, hinting at something?
Do any of Southern/SouthEastern's trains have plug sockets? I don't expect them, but then, I'm old enough that I assume they are not the norm; you younger ones grew up with them on many routes!
Good video, Dylan.
Great trip. Hope this train can fitted with plug socket.
Hey Dylan – hope you and yours are well. Can I but into ask a couple of questions. I'm coming up to Huddersfield to see a gig in September and I need some advice on timetables. Neither LNER or Avanti are offering weekend tickets for the 23rd/24th Sept and beyond but are offering a few weeks of weekday tickets. Any idea why this might be – I'm guessing a new timetable but don't understand the few weeks of being able to buy weekdays but not weekends. Hope that makes some sense…..
You got unlucky. The classic 375/9s were designed for outer suburban routes. The other subclasses are 2+2 throughout and they are the trains designed for the longer mainline services
Very interesting to see this journey as it's many years since I've been to Dover, and not familiar with the 375s.
Was relieved to see that the "other" unit on your train had 2+2 seats throughout; I might be showing my age but I think that a journey of 70+ miles is far too much for having to cosy up to strangers in 3+2.
Other comments here give some reassurance that travel in the SouthEast isn't all that bad, though the view of the 70(?) commuter unit you passed wasn't at all encouraging.
I mean they are domestic services and also I spot these units whenever I’m trainspotting so yea
Hi Dylan, Id just like to talk about the overall video,
I just want to mention that i use these trains quite often to go to places from Folkestone central.
Firstly from the title "slow and disappointing alternative to the javelin" – You paid £7.25 for an advance single ticket which in my opinion is fantastic from dover to waterloo even the non-railcard option of £11, As you mentioned in your video hs1 is 30 minutes faster, that is true 100% but some people will pay that extra to get there quicker or they need to go to St Pancras for a reason but then if you needed to go to waterloo from St Pancras you would then need the tube which would add on to the £7.25.
Secondly I would've appreciated if you had compared/reviewed other ticket types within this journey to get another persons point of view (only because you made a point of view from yourself), such as me paying a same day ticket from Folkestone to Ashford costs £9.30 off peak day return (non-railcard).
I understand 100% this is all from you but its just how much negativity you have put towards the class 375 when they aren't even bad trains.
The Class 375 Electrostar are still very nice trains since they were manufactured by Adtranz/Bombardier (now Alstom). And the Class 377/5 are also very nice which they were used on Thameslink and were replaced by the Class 700. I have been on the Class 375 couple times and they do look really nice in blue livery.
Just to mention some of the trains on this route are different. Often go on this line and on my last trip Sevenoaks to Folkestone and there where plugs for charging your phone. HS1 end at Ashford, from there on to Folkestone and Dover its just a normal services and runs on the main line rather than the Eurostar line. As someone else mentioned tickets on the slow trains are far cheaper than HS1. Greeting though from the cliffs between Folkestone and Dover.
Love streamlined shiny blue exterior except blunt end rear car..
Looks like you lucked out with this particular Class 375/9. When I did my day trip from Kenton to the Romney,Hythe and Dymchurch railway, I travelled both ways between St.Pancras and Folkestone General on a Javelin unit.
I noted (with some alarm) that the bays of four in the end coach of your train lined up exactly as most folk would hate with a pillar adjacent the table instead of a proper window view. Thankfully, the bays lined up properly in other coaches.
I've finally caught up with your most recent presentation, so it's been a great lazy day for this retired gent. Best wishes for your next presentation.🙂
A most interesting video to watch,thanks.