Why are EXPATS leaving the Philippines in a mass exodus?

Hey good morning guys I thought today being beer Friday we would just have a session about why are all the expats leaving the Philippines let’s talk about it Heyy guys so I’m packing up some of the some of the personal materials for the transition over for the dive shop now and I thought since I’m here I would take the time to do the beer Friday session and to kind of just a session about like my opinion and maybe

If you guys will comment on your opinions as far as this this perception that there’s this Mass Exodus of expats from the Philippines back to their home countries and um what the reality is um now you know I have a personal opinion you know how opinions are right I I think there’s

Probably I don’t think that there’s any significant data that supports that there is a significant movement of expats uh from the Philippines or Asia in general in 2023 that would outpace anything that was occurring let’s say at the end of 21 or the beginning of 2022 postco you know

I think that was the peak I think what we’re seeing now is the slide down now those numbers are probably lower okay and may not pace out the influx of those that are moving versus those that are staying however I think what we’re seeing is especially in this

Community you know like vloggers are specifically throwing in the towel and making big deals about moving back to their home country I think that’s showing and then they’re giving their opinions of why you know and that is keeping in Focus you know there’s a couple things that occur in that anomaly

All right number one you know the visibility you they’re on the media platform some of these people are pretty popular YouTubers and they’re giving their opinions why they’ve moved back or why they’re leaving or that long drawn out drama of clickbait in their transition from leaving saying they’re leaving yet they’re still here

And will eventually leave whatever right I think there’s a lot there’s a lot of different things going on with that um one you know uh they’re using it in order to to move um visibility you know get more attention get more views likes Etc uh I I’ve noted that some of these bloggers

Are not really they’re talking about it but they don’t you you it doesn’t look like that they’re actually doing anything in their moves per se then you’ve got those there’s a couple of them that have done it and they’ve made a big deal but you know uh

Most of those guys you need to understand most of us have made our uh content material based on are perceptions experiences and travels within the Philippines or Asia so the minute you move back you lose that that genre you lose that Niche and and you can see the

Downturn in views and comments and everything else on the on that and and to be fair you know I think the genre in general the Asia or the Philippine vlogging genre or the Asia vlogging genre is pretty spent it’s pretty burnt out I think with the way the economy is

Right now and I’ve actually on uh Sunday I will have a video specifically about um some of the the facts behind the economy in the Philippines internationally in general how the US is tied to that but I think those things are starting to kind of impact a lot of

People and there is some movement of people moving back into their uh home countries probably mainly for security reasons I I I I can’t see you know for instance let’s just take the US it’s the easiest for me to actually defend you know if you’re on a set budget in the United

States it it’s obviously going to be harder predominantly now there’s areas that are a lot cheaper to live in in in the United States and has more support than living here in the Philippines but in general you know if we compare apples to apples you know like seu to let’s say

Phoenix or SIU to um uh San Antonio that would be a good one San Antonio and SIU little big cities right uh I think it’s cheaper to live live in SIU than it is San Antonio for sure you know uh housing costs have gone insane and I had a home

That I sold back in I think 2017 right that doubled in price and I can’t imagine what that area is like now and uh you know significant cost increases you know food and housing and everything else I think that’s part of the factor I think that

Uh uh the the people are getting shocked here with the increase in interest rate or not interest rates but inflation rates and cost of living in general so they’re assuming that them going back to their home country and more of a comfort zone things will be better you know I

Don’t know I I I have a tendency to do the math before I start making decisions like that and the math doesn’t play out for me all right right um but then again I think it’s it’s you know to a certain degree some of these guys are just tired of it and even

Though it may appear that they’ve got friends and they got they’ve got girlfriends or they’re in relationships or anything I got a feeling there’s a bit bit of loneliness behind that you know I I’m I’m betting money that some of these guys are pretty lonely and are

Just kind of missing family and and old friends I’m lucky I’ve got solid friends here I don’t have a lot of them but you know the ones that I do have are solid and you know my relationship is you know I got three kids so I’m integrated into

The Philippines a lot of guys are you know it’s not like we can pick up and go um I just don’t think that there’s as many as people are um letting on I think they’re manipulating the data or projecting not manipulating but projecting data that is nonexistent I also feel that

Uh you know whatever is being displaced will be replaced I I just I can’t see it um in in and then next week I’m gonna have a kind of like a geopolitical take on some of the potentials of what’s going on specifically in the South China Sea

And how that could parallel to you know immigration in the past into the Philippines and others Asia countries I I kind of feel that we’re teetering on several points in the world in some humanitarian crisis issues I feel that you know um I I mean I I just I can’t see what

The benefit of if you’ve got it settled in here and you’re doing good what maybe that’s the problem too maybe they’re not doing good maybe they’re financially not being honest about their finances or or they took on more than they could chew or or

Whatever it is I mean I have no idea but I don’t honestly believe there’s the mass exit and you know what do you think I mean do you think there is I I know two two that went back to the States one already regrets it and um I just kind of wonder

What why now everybody is using this as their clickbait you know and if you got any data that shows that there is a significant you know tourism is one thing okay I’m talking about real demographic data uh because Department of Tourism and especially in all of these a lot of

That data that’s wrapped up is twofold so you’re not talking about long-term expat sometimes in that data you get a lot of tourists that happen to be here two or three months and are are registering as you know um uh expats leaving a long-term environment and that that’s not

Necessary to necessarily true because they’re just long-term tourists there’s a difference people who have been here five seven 10 years and then now deciding that they’re coming back I don’t think there’s a lot of them I don’t think there’s um you know um not so I mean let uh vloggers and I’m not

Going to go through names but you guys probably know who I’m talking about um you know some of the dumag Getti guys uh one of them a very well-known vlogger but that was because of medical issues specific for uh that family and um then then you’ve got the one guy he’s he’s

Probably uh he was here he he had some um issues in the past I guess he was you know in Corporate America and didn’t Faire too well in that spent a little bit of time in a Slammer but he’s one of the major proponents on perpetuating this perception that you

Know there’s this Mass Exodus and then you’ve got several other dumag Getti guys and um you’ve got uh one or two up in lazone um one of them is not really moving out of the Philippines he’s just moving within the Philippines cuz he’s tired to where he’s

At because of some some bull crap and I don’t blame the guy you know what he was what he was dealing with but um you know then the one atate that took his family up then there’s an argument about whether that was permanent or if he’s just there on vacation I don’t know

So um see you know th those are just High visible individuals that are perpetuating that and people are making assumptions on what they’re seeing I am seeing more and more people especially from Europe coming in looking for you know the one two three years possibly forever I got one here locally

Um from France that you know he came and is deciding he staying long term so there’s more people that I think are actually um generating in that now there is one caveat to this I will admit that I have seen more of the um foreigners that had came and done done business the

Right way you know whether corporating or or or building a business and running it and you know then covid hits and then the new regulations new all this stuff that they’re grinding businesses down in the Philippines you know there’s a lot of people that are quitting it um but

That goes in two ways a lot of them are quitting and going home right because they got to open something up or go back to work right or they just are tired of doing business and deciding to close it up and they’re not moving out of the Philippines they’re just not doing

Business in the Philippines so again I don’t there may be an increase in that that demographic simply because of um post co uh recovery policies Etc you know what I mean um I mean that’s not you know health reasons are the reasons why I um sold this out

It isn’t it’s not closing it’s just being bought by somebody else and it’s uh renamed as a new d a different dive or uh uh spot now so um same same you know and I’m still uh more more or less still kind of connected to it I’ll I’ll

Do all the text stuff and everything but I won’t be residing here as all the difference is but you know I I’m not I’m not seeing it you know what what do you guys think what do you guys see put comments down tell me tell me what you think um and if

You do see it what are those reasons what are the the the logical reasons people are leaving the Philippines you know the things that bring people here is affordability you know quality of life and all this so if you’re leaving and things have since then gotten worse

In that home what is so significant that’s pushing people to go back just a quick one man I’m not going to sit here and talk 30 45 minutes on this but just you know one of those things that are a curious thing so if you guys got any comments let me know

All right guys until next time remember Sunday I got something coming in if you like the Channel Please Subscribe and like the video helps me get the in the algorithm and um you know again Sunday I got some material coming out and then uh next Wednesday we got another adventure

Vlog so we’ll see how that goes right um I’m going to keep pretty much on the three-day cycles and we’ll see how it goes from there peace out

Why are EXPATS leaving the Philippines in a mass exodus?

It is being said that EXPATs are in a mass exodus from the Philippines. Is this true? If so, why? Let’s talk about the probabilities and find some answers!

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26 Comments

  1. Yeah, it's insane to complain about the inflation in the Philippines, then say or imply that it is cheaper back in their country of origin. I think a few of the vloggers left because they came into family money and can now afford to live there or they want to avoid potential legal problems

  2. It's a wonder Tim K didn't put out a vlog entitled ' Leaving My House Behind In The Phillipines' when all he was doing was jumping on his scooter to go to the local shop. Nothing is ever quite what it seems with that guy; it's all clickbait.

  3. If they're ranting about inflation here versus inflation in the West, I don't buy it. Just the rentals alone skyrocketing in the West blasts that argument out the water. Yep I think its a mix of legal issues and quite a few underestimated how expensive their Pinay's families are lol. A couple of small vloggers (Tim W!) I just started following here were ranting about how their Pinoy neighbors and their girls' families were getting expensive lol

  4. A few reasons. First too many foreigners in both Philippines and Thailand due to YouTubers blogging about paradise. Many people moved and now realize it’s not all they thought it would be and moved back home. The more foreigners, the more prices skyrocket. The foreigners that existed there before everyone and their brothers moved over sold out at a profit and moved to Vietnam and Cambodia which is way many old timers are also gone.

  5. We have lived in the Philippines for years. But our plan from the beginning was to leave here when i turned 68 which will be in 4 years.. mainly do to the poor health care here. We are looking at moving to Ocala fla.. better health care facilities. Better roads better drivers..

  6. When your money starts to run low, the best thing you can do is go back to your home country in the west and GET A JOB to start saving again. Some of these guys need money.

  7. I'm a dual citizen currently living in Toronto and have lived here since 1990. It is ironic that a lot of Canadians and new immigrants here are leaving Canada due to high cost of living, poor job prospects, woke society and cold weather. There is a floor here on how low you can lower your cost of living. You will be homeless here if you only have C$1000/month income. You will thrive in PH with that income but not in luxury of course but not homeless and starving. The vibe here in Canada is depressing. If I were Caucasian, I would leave Canada. I think Asia is one of the places where it is ok to be straight white male πŸ™‚ Don't even get me started on dating here. I'm coming home to retire early in my 40's in Cebu this year.

  8. I can see why bloggers are moving back. I mean they are on the edge , most don't have much money . Those leaving , where are these numbers coming from ? I will enjoy seeing these facts. I do know that the Philippines just had the most tourists for a the last quarter than any quarter in history. So it seems opposite .

  9. Hoping there will be many leaving of expats. Here in Cebu I avoid all expats as to not want to associate with any of them. Many need to charged with human trafficking of very young Filipinas to old men. I spend my time with Filipina wife and her family and friends. So boy pack your bags and get out.

  10. It can be cheaper to live in the Philippines, mostly in proportion to what you're willing to live without. I've been coming here every other year for 20 years and I'm here right now. If you were to not own a car, have a very small living space it might be cheaper. Overall, I'd say if you were trying to live a western lifestyle, it would be cheaper to do so where I'm from in Kansas City. I'm comparing Cebu Business Park to Johnson County, KS. We're into a global economy now and the opportunity for significant cost savings using your passport is going away. 20 years ago, it was an extreme bargain. It's not anymore. You factor in things like the traffic, overcrowding, language issues, cleanliness of the place, lack of walkability, subpar medical care, and lack of things to do….I don't see myself being able to spend extended periods of time here. Two bedroom condos can be $300,000+. The nice part of town is a very small area. The rest of it is squalor.

  11. They probably watched a documentary on the Japanese occupation of the Philippines and got scared after looking at China and there’s no MacArthur available πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

  12. Demand built up for years because we couldn't enter Philippines as it had one of the toughest covid border closures in the world. Even though Filipinos are some of the youngest skinniest people in the world and weren't ever the main demographic of dying. It was racism not scientific to close the border like that.

    Then once we could enter Philippines the daydreams, mirages and illusions all got shattered 1 by 1.

    I realized after a year with my ex that I was a de facto sugar daddy and wasn't comfortable in continuing the relationship or having a kid with her. Being single – there's really no reason to stay in Philippines. Even womanizing in Philippines isn't as easy as it used to be. If I use Tinder in Manila I don't really get matches or women swiping on me even though I'm tall, richer than local males and not obese or anything. It's like online dating it dying over in Phills. But Phills doesn't do nightlife like Thailand. And girls in the malls got masks on and so on. I try to small talk girls outside but they hardly want to return a conversation.

    Philippines is also not cheap. Japan is currently on par on pricing. Malaysia you can go to a hawker center (they're everywhere) and get a hot meal for 2 to 3 dollars while in Philippines you never want to eat at a carinderia so you go to these sit down restaurants that cost much more..

  13. 8:30
    Actually that's one of the reasons I tell people why I left Philippines. There was a chance Philippines could had remained neutral in a WW3. Even if it might mean handing over Palawan or letting China empty out the ocean of fish (I prefer to eat chicken myself so no big loss there). But ever since Philippines announced they would let those 8 – 12 American military bases open it's OVER. There's no way a few 1000 American soldiers can defend 100+ million people. They were literally better prepared in 1940 than they are in 2024. And what happens to those American soldiers if Philippines pulls a Romania, switches sides and then besieges them?

  14. 9:20
    How many 75 to 85 year old expats do you see in Philippines? That would be the ultimate proof in the pudding of people staying here and not leaving. Because they would be staying until they became worm food. As old as a lot of the Grandpas look – many of them are still 55 to 60 something. It's implying huge swathes of expats eventually leave maybe for medical care or whatever.

  15. Most of the people leaving are on tourist visas and had never planned on staying here. My late wife and I planned our retirement in the Philippines twenty years ago.

  16. Now that Google has been sued charging advertisers for adblocked and bot generated views, AdSense revenue to vloggers is going to start dropping. They may not be able to support themselves anymore.

  17. JW, I don't think there is really any way to quantify the numbers unless you can get BI to do a deep dive into their data. As you know, a lot of folks who come here and eventually "throw in the towel" when they have had enough of dealing with some of the frustrations that come with living here. I have been coming here since 1989 and even I catch myself getting frustrated at times. I would imagine that one of the hardest things somebody could do is to try and come here on a Youtuber income. I know a few have been successful, but like you said, they move away and their subs and views drop big time. Then you turn around and they are back in the Philippines telling you how much they love being "home" again. Some of them come off as grifters, sorry. How many times has that tuber couple from the UK come, gone, come back, lest again? Anyway, see you soon.

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