American Reacts to Something Europe Has That America Doesn’t…
All righty hello we’re looking at uh something called freedom of movement now I don’t know if I’ve necessarily heard of this like term this comes to us from a channel called migrants rights noww it could be linked down below so you can check out this whole video and of course
Browser Channel it comes to us uh from a suggestion from Lia so thank you for that I guess we’re just going to hop right into it because I’m not really sure uh what we’re referencing here so should be pretty interesting the next train to become free movement has been has
Profoundly shaped my life when I was 18 and I found the things I wanted to study were in Italy and in the UK eventually I was able to pursue that when then uh in London I met uh a person I fell in love with I was able to pursue him when I
Found out he lived in Amsterdam when we found the things we wanted to with in London we were both both able to uh to come and live here so it’s everything I would say my my current family my friendships and my job my education uh are consequences of of me being able to
Enjoy the freedom of movement until years ago some years ago only the rich and the powerful were able to freely move around and be with whoever they wanted work whatever they wanted now that that freedom has become part of um something that common people can do so
Everybody can freely move and they don’t have to ask for permission so it’s that that control that was there before um now has disappeared and it’s about the people really we’ve gone a lot more about that democracy the power to the people let’s say I think that okay so this is talking about
Like moving between countries is that what we’re talking about um wow yeah that’s um very convenient obviously I feel like I I guess I assumed like I feel like I pretty much already knew from like I guess other videos like hinting at that that you can just go from one country to
The other right I mean I guess I’ve seen like driving videos where you just drive um say you’re in Germany right and you’re driving and then it says oh welcome to the Netherlands right like it’s just a sign like kind of for me reminded of like driving between states
You cross the border oh another state welcome to Iowa welcome to Wisconsin whatever right is that what we’re talking about here um in that case I mean yeah that’s pretty cool as far as I know that yeah you can just whether you’re on a train
Or car or whatever you just go to the next country and that’s it that’s obviously different than some places in the world especially from my perspective um I’ve lived on the border of another country uh for a while we lived in uh Los crusis New Mexico which is part of
The El Paso Texas statistical area so we were in El Paso a lot and that is literally on the border with Mexico that is a unique Crossing along the huge border only in the fact that they have the bridge of the Americas there and for American Standards you can very easily
Pass into Mexico and pretty easily pass back into Texas but other than that yeah it’s a nightmare to go to Canada or Mexico so we’ve freedom of movement I guess you could say in between states that’s easy and thank goodness right at least we have that but it’s not just uh
One of those things you wake up and like oh I want to go to Canada right like you don’t just drive up and go through it’s not how it works here my generation it is really completely natural I think it’s hard for us to to imagine what it
Would be like if we didn’t have that if we didn’t have the ability to jump on a plane and go for a city break somewhere in in one of the um European um cities uh if we didn’t have the option to study in another country if we chose to do so
Uh and if we didn’t have the the ability to choose to work somewhere else and gain experience in another in another European um country okay so first point it would suck not to have that yes of course in Europe that would suck not to be able to easily just travel to other
Countries around you um but I this is stuff I don’t know so you can just choose a School in a different country and like pretty easily just go there is that right is that what I’m gathering same with a job if you are like you can just get a job in a
Different country I I don’t know if you guys want to weigh in on that this is going to be good for comments like trying to teach me some things because I guess that’s stuff I’ve never really thought of and came across in any of these videos I know you can travel
Easily between them so that’s cool um but how far does that go jobs schooling is that easy to go between countries for that as well sounds like it with free movement you’re able to have a lot more diverse population you’re you have a lot more multilingual people um that can
Contribute to society to the Arts um to employment you have people who are coming here who can contribute to an increasingly diverse uh Society diverse economy um and I think that’s very very rich of course I think it’s just simple freedom to be able to to go to different
Countries to travel to work study live I think the the freedom of movement gives us security the fact that we have uh Europeans in different European countries at the moment and the fact that we are so intertwined gives us the security it means that uh uh we need to
Work together and it means that the governments of the various European countries must work together as well to resolve any potential problems that we have together we have to remember that I mean yeah I think each other the countries Mains their identity and cultures and stuff obviously I think it
Also kind of promotes a sort of um interconnection between the countries right I would assume uh like on some sort of level it’s it’s feels a little more unified right to an extent that’s why the EU was created because we’ve had war in the continent for most of our
History and um the fact that we are be we have become interdependent interconnected that means that and and we’ve grown into the understanding of each other that we’ve kind of ensured that there is not going to be War because it’s not good for any of us no
Yeah that’s not good um so what about the countries that aren’t in the EU CU obviously there’s some countries in Europe that aren’t in the EU can you just freely move between those and an EU country H obviously EU migrants also pay tax they pay into the welfare system and
Make it Richer there was a study that showed that um for each pound 30 that uh EU migrants contrib tax they only take in about one pound in terms of the services and so forth I think British people would would lose uh the same thing that I would lose in principle and
They would lose the opportunity to be able to pursue perhaps the studies that they want to pursue that happen Okay I just checked this is from 2016 geez I did not know some videos I watch I’m not aware of how old they are this is hella old 2016 gez um now they’re talking
About Britain this might have been before brexit right is that what I’m is that what we’re talking about here kind of sounds like a huh um obviously that means they’re not part of the EU anymore so how’s that affect that the same way if they meet
Someone and fall in love they might not be able to pursue that um or they might still insist on pursuing it but it would definitely be much more difficult I mean our British people ready to give up a right that they’ve earned and that they can use if they want W this is
Refen necessarily wants to go and leave a country but they can and their children will be able to do it and losing such a right which is such a a great step we’ve taken towards that democracy towards equality it would be such a big mistake freedom of movement
Will happen regardless of whether the UK remains in uh in Europe or not it will be something that will happen because it needs to happen the UK is uh is an international business center it requires the skills that Europeans has to offer it needs those to prosper
That’s true um I have never really covered or learned about the whole brexit thing uh so without going too deep into that I mean the UK is still a pretty strategic place right especially like London I’m sure there’s like they just said lots of Commerce business involved with other countries throughout
Europe right so how does that work after they leave and how does freedom of movement I guess I mean obviously you’re allowed to go to the UK and vice versa right like if you want to go between let’s say France and the UK you’re still obviously I would assume
You’re still able to do that but maybe it has different terms now I’m not sure to that I don’t know there would be one thing I could say to the people of Britain about free movement that would be don’t give it up it’s it’s your right um it’s about
Opportunities it’s your chance to have a new life anywhere else it’s your chance to meet your soulmate and be able to have a a great relationship in 28 countries yeah I mean that sounds pretty cool right I mean it’s a cool video explaining you know the benefits the pretty obvious benefits of something
Like this freedom of movement would offer and uh yeah once you wouldn’t want to give that up obviously it’s really nice and convenient and gives you plenty of opportunities I feel like Europe is somewhere just because of how it is how much culture and you know differences
And opportunities there would be I feel like it’s a place where you need in theory like I think of it I’ve done this before and I know it’s different so you know calm down if you want to yell at me but hold on like I think of Europe in
Sort of a distant way of like you have all these different countries that you can go to pretty easily just like here you go to different states very easily right obviously different it’s not the same uh with Europe it’s even more of an impact because going from Illinois to
Iowa is definitely less of a uh culture shock than going from Germany to France or the Netherlands to Belgium like it’s going to be you know more unique experiences in Europe obviously so being able to do that very easily is a great thing and uh I don’t think you’d want to
Not be able to do that now obviously this video didn’t work uh for you know keeping the UK uh in the EU those kind of results from that are kind of above my head but I imagine for the common person you’re still able to go between like EU and UK
To an extent right uh but anyway I mean this is pretty cool uh it’s funny because I guess like living in the US is is a weird scenario weird perspective watching something like this just because you know it is a big country than than I guess on one hand it’s good
That it’s so big and diverse and uh there’s so many beautiful states to see and cultures to kind of embrace and Cuisine to you know try out uh I I mean on one hand that’s good because of American work culture and not great benefits for work and you know
I don’t know like cost of travel from the US to anywhere else uh it’s hard it’s hard for a lot of people to travel I mean me included I guess I’ve been sort of to Mexico and and to Canada very vaguely but uh that’s about it and it hasn’t happened much and unfortunately
For me um you know I’m 31 and I haven’t gotten to go beyond that right I haven’t gotten to go to other continents at all and anywhere in Europe anywhere in Australia anywhere in Asia Africa South America you name it I haven’t been able to accomplish that yet so uh it it like
I said on one hand the USA can keep you entertained if you want like for for a long time there’s a lot of awesome stuff to see here but at the same time it is hard to travel out of here and you know flights is one thing to a different
Continent that’s kind of not really what we’re talking about in this video but that’s hard enough but of course uh just driving down to Mexico driving up to Canada it’s just not that simple it’s not something where you just drive through and it’s like oh welcome to
Canada right that’s not how it works it’s a pain and uh especially our Southern border it’s really sketchy right there’s always tension there’s military everywhere on both sides it’s not a uh generally a pleasant experience it’s a lot of weird stuff going on a lot of corruption and so I guess in this
Regard the US does not have this like the EU does I would love to see your comments on this uh keep up your awesome suggestions and hey I hope you have an awesome day today it’s all I got for you in this one my name is Ian
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I live in a small village south Spain population 700. 10 different nationalities possibly more the local market town population 5500 has 65 with 35 in it’s school
I'm Welsh and British. I've lived in 4 countries in the Union and voted Remain in the EU referendum. Overnight, I lost easy access to 27 of the 28 states. I'd grown up with the EU being, in a sense, my entire country (like you have in the US) and it was stolen from me. I was going to move to Britanny and now I can't.
We lost the Brexit referendum to old people and bigots. They screwed our country and its been going downhill ever since. So, if I can up my income, I'll be taking French, Danish, or Swiss* citizenship and leaving.
It was doubly stupid as the indepence movements in Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland have increased. Let 'little old England' stumble along on her own until she dies of gout and old age.
*Switzerland isn't in the EU but does have a freedom of movement agreement with the Union.
Only Europeans have 50 different languages,if you don't understand you maybe working less pay
Since brexit a lot has changed in travelling for uk citizens. Last week I Arrived back in the Netherlands by plane. I was lucky to be eu citizen the process at the border took 5 minutes for uk citizens they have to stand in the row all other passports. We came from London 1 hour flight. Those uk citizens need more time to pass the border and collect their luggage 😊
What most people don't understand, is that UK never had full free movement in Europe, only a limited special permission only to most UK citizens (but not for example to people studying or travelling in the UK), since they never joined the Shengen area.
And due to Brexit it has none now. EU countries have EU citizenship in addition to their normal citizenship, which gives them most of these rights
1:14 She is absolutely and categorically full of it. There has NEVER been a class difference to visa's… Educational barriers yes, but that has always existed..
This is a propaganda video, paid for and directed for promotional purposes by the EU to show how great it is and how much it has given. I'm not saying what I show is not true, but it is an exaggerated truth. Technically, everyone seems to have the same thing, but in practice it opened all doors for a resident of the UK or France, and for a Pole or a Romanian, it only opened the door to a low-paid job there (which is, nevertheless, at the level of a well-paid job at home). It turns out that everyone seems to have the same situation, but some are better than others. A French or Italian university is recognized in Poland, with a Polish diploma (usually at a much higher level) you can wipe your ass when you run out of paper. Unless you really are a specialist, engineer, doctor or something like that. To best understand the differences, let me use an example: imagine that every American can open a legal business in Mexico without any problems and every Mexican can do it in the USA. How many Americans can afford to open such a business, e.g. pay for premises or employees, before they start earning money? And how much can Mexicans afford such a thing in the USA? It's like a race except we start a few miles away…
No reflection on this video, but the background music in the original video is way too loud.
I think it's better to compare EU-Countries to US-States than the US to other countries around as the EU may not be a formal country but alrady has quite some elements of a country.
About the question about freedom of movement with non-EU-countries: Yes, it also exists to with other, Non-EU-countries, for example with all EEA countries (Iceland, Liechtenstein, and Norway) and a few countries with special treaties (e.g. Switzerland)
But: She was not right about UK would keep freedom of movement. As the EU rule is that Freedom of Movement has to be bi-directional there is no treaty with the UK as the UK may be fine with freedom of movement into the EU, but not the other way around.
Freedom of movement is the foundation of the European single market and it is built on four freedoms:
– Free movement of goods
– Free movement of capital
– Freedom to establish and provide services
– Free movement of people
This is for all countries that are in the the EEA which are all EU countries plus Norway and Island. Also Switzerlamnd which is not in the EEA but linked to the EU with different single treaties.
In addition there is the European Union citizenship which esnures rights to all citizens with any citizenship of an EU country.
Brexit:
UK lost all of it by choice.
– Free movement of goods
Is gone, there is treaty but there are quotas for customs free goods and products and rules of origin apply. You can't import something that was made in the US into the UK and then sell it to the EU without customs.
– Free movement of capital
The ZUk is not longer under the control of EU rules. So they have a limited acces to the capital market in the European single market and can't sell all finance products.
– Freedom to establish and provide services
Gone and not replaced with anything.
– Free movement of people
Gone. UK citizens has now to use the non-EU-citizen gates when entering the EU. Like US citizens. So no special treatment.
UK citizens can enter the EU without a visa for a maxium of 90 days within 180 days, they need a passport, the financial ressources for the stay and a travel health insurance.
This was all not necessary before Breixt.
OK, maybe the passport was needed before. EU citizens may be able to travel freely but you need to have some form of identification on you.
Not sure if the Uk had an ID card. Germany has and there are lots of countries you can travel with just with your ID card. .
Not sure how does thios work in the US.
When you order something from another state online and the VAT is different, which VAT applies?
For the EU it is shared. Wenn I order something from France, the seller will put the French VAT on it and pay the VAT in France.
The item is then taxed. No need for special paperwork.
There is the European Union and the Schengen Area, which are different things. The Schengen Area means you can not only move between countries, you get all the rights and protections that the local citizens get. That means that when a German moves to France, he gets the same social security net that a natural born Frenchman gets.
Some EU countries get partial rights, like being in the Schengen Area, but not quite.
Some parts of some EU countries are exempt and some EU countries are just not in Schengen.
Imagine if you could just move to Canada and get healthcare, because you moved there. Literally what it is, if you boil it down to the basics.
Quite a few Britons are now regretting that they voted for Brexit. Many things have gone for the worse as a result, and the British now understand that they were lied to.
…De hecho, UK ha dejado de ser el centro de negocios que era y el pais ha caido en manos del desempleo y la corrupción….han perdido las ventajas de la protección de las leyes europeas y caído en las manos de los aprovechados que impulsaban el Brexit con la esperanza de amasar mucho dinero en el " río revuelto" en que se convertiria el país, aún a costa de arruinarlo…..sin leyes protectoras del ciudadano y de la economía, han sido presa fácil de estos especuladores, que, además, estan en el gobierno….HACIENDO ELLOS MISMOS LAS LEYES QUE LES FAVORECEN. …no te suena la situación.. ?? Nada de protección y capitalismo salvaje……
No podemos estar más agradecidos de tener la Europa que tenemos, con su normativa protectora de las personas…🤞🤞🤞
Ahora hay una frontera, entre UK y el resto. Por los demas paises viajamos como por dentro del nuestro….y nos asentamis, estudiamos, trabajamos y vivimos sin problemas….
For a lot us in Europe, it's not that easy to go overseas to North America either. Never been there, but I've been to several countries in Europe. Denmark, Norway, Germany, Belgium, France, UK, Greece, Spain, Italy and Bulgaria. Some of them more than once. Since I'm from Sweden, it's very simple to travel in the Scandinavian countries. (Even if Norway is not a part of the EU).
The last one of the European countries I've been to is the UK. Family trip to London. My oldest daughter loves the UK and wants to be an exchange student there. She's going to high school in August. But she'll probably wait until collage to study abroad.
Great reaction!
Greetings from Sweden!🇸🇪
My nephew (from Portugal) went on an Erasmus exchange programme to Germany, where he met a Czech girl. After returning to Portugal and obtaining his Computer Engineering degree, he just moved to Prague with that girl, searched for a job, found one at a tech company (full of people from all over Europe), and now he's settled there. And after two years of residency he will have the right to vote in local Czech elections (not on national Czech ones, though), as does any other EU/EEA citizen living in any EU/EEA country.
Fun fact: my viewing of this video was interrupted for a commercial by Mr. "Turder" Carlson. 😂
The end of freedom of movement and existing the Single Market and Customs Union disrupted many things, e.g. supply chains. Before, you would just load your truck, get the required invoices and transport notes, and you were off. Now, it's much more complicated. Many truck drivers do not have a passport, because they don't need one inside the EU/EEA. If they are required one to get into the UK, that may put them off.
But that is the least of their problems. Before, they would just hop on and hop off the ferry or train across the Chunnel, now they must stop, and have their paperwork and maybe even their cargo checked. (At least UK -> EU; on the other way the UK is basically waving them through because they lack the capacity to check.) This means some truckers have to wait for hours (sometimes up to 48 hours!) in poor conditions. That puts off a lot of them; and because there is a shortage of truckers all around the continent, they can just choose where to go and where not to go: many will choose not to go to the UK and save the trouble on their return trip (if not on both directions).
Also, if you have any different small parcels inside a truck (and not a big truckload of a single product), you must have the required paperwork for each parcel; if 99% are OK and 1% fails the inspection, the entire truck gets barred. That means many deliveries will get delayed, clients will be annoyed and, when possible, will get their supplies somewhere else. (Now, when I'm shopping online, I always check if the supplier is from within the Single Market, because a few months ago I had to wait a few extra weeks and pay a customs agent to clear my order, because I hadn't realised in advance they were from the UK.)
People can move throughout the EU, study and find jobs in other countries. But when you're outside of the EU, you are treated as an absolute foreigner. At the end of the day, there is no major difference with the US, where there is integration between the states, but a major separation with the rest of the world.
People may argue that EU countries are independent states, whereas the US is one country, but in fact the EU is more of a federation itself and the US is twice as big as the EU, which means that many European countries are smaller than US states. Therefore, from a purely geographic point of view, there is more freedom of movement in the US.
well Brexit was a result of fearmongering in the old generation and the delusional "yes" say of the younger generation(huge portion of students that have little to no life experience and have illusions of grandeur or…. Grandeur of their own country) Those that fear the loss of identity and those that are not smart enough to understand what the EU actually means and what it offers, so yeah its the dumb people pushing for independence, while having no clue what that entails, i hear it every day how the EU made everything expensive without a second thought about how everyone is living a life of plenty, access to the world and all the sponsored programs you are entitled to, that is actual freedom.
As to true freedom, you dont want that, that is why Anarchy is considered bad, its nice till someone comes with a gun, gang or money to a fist fight, there is no gain or win
As to world status, Europe does not field armies, tanks, plains and ordinance because it cant, so the us mil support is sort of a joke here, why do it ourselves when we can have the US do it.
As to if the EU could, lets just say that the production of the EU would dwarf the US just because of our production capabilities, Europe isnt a toddler in warfare and the US knows this so dont give me this army comparison crap, have a nice day