Black American BOUGHT rural land in #FreeState South Africa

Black American BOUGHT rural land in #FreeState South Africa

What’s good what’s good what’s good what’s good no excuse family and the passport Bros so this is one of three streams I’m doing today I got a returning uh brother on a platform um he’s in South Africa he’s been in South Africa for some time

And I’ll bring him up in a moment so he can introduce himself and um you know talk about what he’s been doing um so he had um pointed out to me that he had purchased land in South Africa and and also he had mentioned a stream that I

Did on how to buy land in South Africa so I want to bring this brother up and you know I mean we’re just going to talk about um you know his purchase things he got in the works and then also his organization so I’m gonna bring up brother

Kimani what’s good bro man good to see you good to see you uh good to see you as well man how how’s that everything oh everything’s going good man you know um I was just gonna say too I actually just got back to the US on the six okay back

About a week I’m in Columbia right now um Vis side of the family um yeah have some recent deaths so you know I I do be missing my family you know as much as much as I like to stay overseas I do be missing the fam so um so yeah I just

Came back you know to visit and um catch up with everybody you said in Colombia or uh yeah Columbia South Carolina my bad oh okay okay colia yeah okay I was like okay I didn’t know you was Colombian but okay I got you oh yeah N I got

You so th so those who um may not be familiar with you um introduce yourself the organization and then just kind of walk us through um your time in Africa cool okay yeah so uh my name is Kimani originally from Texas uh born in Colleen for any you know military people out

There uh yall know for Hood pretty sure y’all heard it for Hood so um pretty much grew up in Texas my whole life other than that I lived in Cali for lived in La for two years um I was was going to school out there uh lived in

Germany for about eight months um before my dad went back to Afghanistan then we ended up you know just going back to the US um while he was over there and then um yeah start so so early on you know my travel um my travel barriers were kind

Of broken like as far as like being afraid of culture sh and you know a change of scenery and that kind of thing so um yeah uh so at this moment in time the past I would say five years um yeah five years going on five years um I’ve

Been traveling abroad and um uh recently um I started a passion project called a virtual heart which is what I’m wearing right now you know um which is basically like a souvenir and a travel brand um that I’m still trying to get off the ground I would say even though I’m like

I’ve been been doing it for about five years now you know um still trying to find um I don’t want to say like purpose but like um my Lane I guess I would say but um we like to make souvenirs that support self- sustainable projects which

Is um what we’re moving moving into um this year for sure and um recently I’ve also became a member of this organization called the ledge Group which stands for land for environmental development of group economics um based here in the US we have members from all

Over the DI aspa um we have uh projects in eight different countries in Africa or across Africa including South Africa um there and the Free State we have a uh water filtration company um which which also serves the community people can come and get you know uh fill up uh

Bottles of water for one Rand per liter um and uh we we have a brick making company there as well and um yeah so I’m looking to for my brand to um to support the projects that we’re doing in there and throughout the other countries that

Were’re active in as well um through you know coffee mugs t-shirts hats I’m I’m trying to do everything eventually you know um so yeah that’s pretty much pretty much what I’m uh what I was doing in South Africa for so long and why free why I was introduced to the free

State you know for my first time there really outside of Johannesburg yeah okay cool now I remember last time we spoke you mentioned that um and I got to get the link from you again and put it in this um in this video but you mentioned that if people want to buy

Land um through your organization can you talk about that yeah um so yeah so through the project projects that we do throughout these countries um about nine different countries uh Gana Sierra Leon um Ghana Sierra Leon Kenya Uganda Zambia Tanzania uh did I say Kenya uh Kenya and

South Africa but yeah so by about eight countries I think I don’t think I count it right but but yeah um so through the projects that we do we build personal relationships you know um and with the people who either attend a workshop or you know something like that or who’s

Benefiting from the clinic or you know what have you people you know these people have access to resources you know um whether it’s land uh minerals uh you know um I mean the possibilities are just endless so uh what ends up happening is that you know we over here

In in you know in the US or you know we have some members from Europe as well um we have the capital so we end up getting getting into talks with different projects like in Tanzania we’re um you know working on developing uh Resorts um South Africa we um we you know through

The Water Project we getting access to land you know in um in quaqua or quaqua let me uh you know say somebody correct me but um yeah I don’t know the the uh in s Leon we got access to a building um um the vacant building that we were able

To you know turn into a clinic that Services the community now so um you know different things like that are you know um are what we’re able to do and so with the land as well um it is customary land that is owned by Chiefs okay so far

Where we where we’re buying land as a group you know in bulk is like Zambia Tanzania South Africa Kenya and uh Ghana we have plots but they do more plots in Ghana um say in West Africa in general from uh my experience um but yeah so we

We get uh access to land at like discounted prices basically like wholesale so when we get those opportunities like that we’ll you know post it in the group and present it and be like okay this is how much it costs um that includes the the tribal tax or

The chief tax you know whatever um however they call it you know which in which country and um yeah and I mean after that it’s pretty much yours forever you get the documentation speaking to South Africa specific specifically um how it uh how it happens is that you know they just uh

How they document is through your passport number so um know they’ll give you the form um are you able to pull up the the paper actually or we gonna get into that later or oh which which the one that you put in the group yeah one I

Put in the group I could pull I could pull that up um I’ll keep that read readily um but um yeah I mean uh you know um I I think it is interesting when you get into the conversation of uh customary Land versus state-owned land

Um it could go either way I would just say go with ever you’re most comfortable with um coming from the US for the brothers out there um go which one you know whichever one you’re most comfortable with and whichever one you think is more secure um the reason why I

Feel more secure with customary land is because of the projects that you know we do through the ledge group um I feel like when once you’re servicing the community of you know essential needs that you know nothing can you know really replace that or mess that up and

If people can point to you know in their local communities of like your contribution to you know um how they’re thriving and you know and different things like that then I think you would have really have a problem with um with um I don’t know with having the fear of

Them taking your land or anything like that interesting so so you so you’re not really a proponent of um Urban l urban urban real estate uh I would if I wanted to live in a city but me personally I I kind of want to live like you know a real

Lifestyle like on a farm you know a state kind of thing personally but I would invest in real estate in the urban though you know like get like a condo or something like that whenever I am in the city or whenever I may fly in you know

Might want to spend a few days in the city or something like that but um but the opportunities your organization um puts out it’s typically customary land projects right and we do we do have the options um so a few members are doing um are taking the plots of land that that

We’ve bought in um or that they’ve they’ve bought personally for themselves um in Zambia and turning into state owned land like there we have um legal processes that you know can assist you with that but only thing is that now it’s going to be taxed that’s thing too

Yeah okay okay okay so um Dam what I was going to ask you um D I forgot I was gonna ask you so if if I have let’s say somebody got five or $10,000 what could I what could I what could I get with five or $10,000 oh man

You can get a lot I mean we um so in sa specifically we bought uh 50 or 40 acres Al together I bought one personally so it was um we were able to get it down to like 500 per acre but normally I’m thinking like an acre will run you about

Uh maybe 1,5 2,000 again depending on your relationship with the chief and how you’re you know how you’re trying to go about it and what you’re trying to do as well is um what matters also like if you’re trying to build a home for a

Residence um then it might you know be a little bit more expensive but if it’s for agriculture which you know to them means that it’s going to create jobs you know um from you know Farm handling to Transportation processing processing different things like that okay okay so

I’m G get into your purchase in a minute but I just got a couple of uh you know questions to lead up to that so five or $10,000 I could probably get something but most likely it it can’t be for residential use if it if it’s customary right right and again I mean

Um like I’m I met met with um with the chief and you know he’s he’s excited about you know what the group is about and he’s you know been to like the water um a water filtration site and stuff like that and so um he’s you know very

Welcoming um to anything we want to do at this point so um if we want to build a home then we’re able to do that you know as long as the projects you know up going and running so yeah so it’s um it it varies I would say it varies now cuz

I know when I was doing research um on it on buying land I know that a lot of people brought up the question is do you have to build within three months with through the chief do you have to do you have a certain time frame to to break

Ground right yeah so um so that one is another thing that varies as well um I would say no because uh right now what we’re doing is um I think we the last people that bought their land should be getting their um paperwork pretty soon either this month or next month I got

Mine back in uh December um I I had bought mine a little early on but uh I would say no uh again you know it all varies you know it all depends but for the most part I would say maybe if it’s you know strictly for residential then yeah they would expect

You to be building you know within three months okay okay did you have that conversation about that or was that I did no I didn’t even ask that okay okay and and what about payment plan so if if if something is let’s say five or $10,000 I’m just throwing these numbers

Out um do you have to do they want you to pay in full or you could say you know what and let’s just say some people in the US let’s just say you know what I could probably save five or10 thousand but you know I mean I may have to you

Know it may take me several months to uh to save that but they but they but they see an opportunity they want to hop on right now right do you have to have the money or do you think or you think you could work out a payment structure or or

Or do you recommend just being able to just pay it in full and not have to worry about um yeah you can definitely work out a payment structure um we’ve been able to successfully do that um with with the land that we bought um because some people did buy uh more than

One acre you know for themselves and um yeah I would definitely say you’re able to do a payment plan and as long as you um I mean if you’re doing like solo like you know like on your on terms or whatever I would say definitely submited

With like a business plan that way they see you know like a budget of what you’re spending and then you know like a yeah I mean uh you you’re establishing your own payment plan so that way they see it and um and so the way we operate

We have a um um what we call executive director which is basic a project manager so you know he speaks the language he’s a local and um he’s the one that works out all the deals and um basically broker the deal like you know

The 40 acres for 500 each so um so right so he’s able to you know do things like that okay let’s see uh question uh statement essay Red Pill by land and Bender to it’s highly fertile land mass oh where’s that at yeah Venda Venda where is that I never

Heard of uh Venda let us know where that is is that up near Puma or like football I I’m not sure okay so hopefully hopefully he responds to that so um I I’ll I’ll highlight I’ll show what the video that I did just so people can

Know and then we’ll go into um okay he said limpo okay yeah I heard LM poo is is beautiful you know I mean I definitely want to check uh check it out yeah my plan is to get a card on that next time I go back rent a car and like

Just drive you know drive to different propenes like juie out there you know let me uh so yeah so I had did a video um damn YouTube so I had did a video on um how to buy land in South Africa which was uh very informative and I know that

You mentioned that you had um you had checked it out as well so one of the things so one of the things that um so so one of the things that I had discovered because I went to the land registry office and um and um Peter Marburg which is in Naz

Quatal um the same the same province that Durban is in and they pretty much said that there was three main types you know of ways you could buy you could buy rural land like you did through through the Chiefs or they call them Kings and then there’s there’s a there’s a

Association that governs the uh you know those type of lands and then you have land then you have land that’s owned by the state which is managed by each respective municipality so whether it’s Durban or whether it’s um um whether it’s something else uh whether it’s Durban whether it’s Johannesburg whether

It’s Cape Town you got those municipalities that have those States those state owned lands that you can that you could essentially buy from the city and then you have you know private you know private sellers that that’s selling land and things of that nature as well so basically three primary um you know

Um sources you could buy real estate from through the through the Kings or chiefs or tribes however you want to um coin it through the municipalities and then through private sellers real estate agents private sellers that that own land things like that so you bought land um through the Chiefs through the Kings

Through the tribe what tribe did this uh Chief represent uh suu suu tribe suu tribe okay suu Basu because you know um free state actually used to be a part of um like Basu landu what is now L what is now known as L suu um okay yeah yeah so

But now it’s you know in South Africa yeah okay so brother Kimani he bought land um he he he bought land through a chief um nutu tried and the The Province you you chose was free state so those who don’t know um South Africa has nine

Provinces or you know we would look at them as States but they have nine provinces free state is not I would say not the most commonly known right State you know what I mean because usually people hit up South Africa they hit up the top three they hit up

Johannesburg which is in um what’s the state in Johannesburg yeah guat Johannesburg which is in guat Cape Town which is in Western Kate and Durban which is in quaz natal so um so why why free state um for me when I uh I I spent a few days in Johannesburg like four when

I first got there back in December um I stayed in santon and I mean it was cool it just reminded me of the US you know grocery stores you know you know white folks uh uh supermarkets um the fast food it it was cool but like I don’t

Know for me it just I just um I mean as soon as I went to the free state I felt like you know I was in Africa I’m not going to lie to you like and you know just the mountains and I mean how the I mean uh quaca is actually

Pretty big too um it takes at least like 45 minutes to get to like where we bought our land to get to where like the water site is the water filtration um site um so it’s a pretty big town and it’s growing too and for me I like to be

You know like I like to be on the frontier and I like to be a Trailblazer you know um on things like that so I see a lot of potential and like how it could grow like the next you know you know five 10 15 years you know what have you

And um they’re actually building like a petrol station um near where um like on the other side of um like really like down the street from where um our um our project site is so um with that you know is going to come like you know you know

More development more shops they might put a a grocery store you know something like that down there next and um yeah I just I just fell in love with it man the mountains just you know super peaceful um yeah you know you know once you once you’ve traveled a lot you you

Know been through a lot of mega cities and stuff like that you you kind of just want you know something you know we gotta be lowkey somewhere where I feel like I’ll be comfortable raising children you know because I see that in the foreseeable future you know next

Like three to five years I would say um so that’s kind of what I’m you know building towards as well and again you know I’m not against you know Urban real estate I would love to have something a condo or something like that in know

Joelberg or Cape Town or you know I just this is gonna take a little bit more time for me to explore and see you know see where I would like to do that at but um that’s kind of my mindset for me okay okay so you chose free state and

Then how did you come about finding or knowing about this opportunity to buy land in a free state where um yeah so that that just came through the group you know um we’ve been active in ESS for about uh I would say three years now since 20 or four years going on four

Years since 2018 um and I joined the group in December of 201 yeah December 2020 so about a year now so it um and before that I was doing you know like my own research and kind of um you know getting a feel for like what the group is about and you know

Seeing how they move and how they operate until I felt comfortable enough to join um so for me it was um it was just kind of a no-brainer um it was kind of a no-brainer me and what I was looking for and know what I’m you know trying to build

Towards okay could you uh do you have a link for the group if people want to join a group and um be a part of what you yeah for sure I can actually I got Facebook open too I can um post the entry group so we have a group called

The Grand Rising which is like basically you can go in there and see um see the projects that or see the countries that we’re active in and you know photos of the projects the project sites um yeah and and everything let me see and you could just uh if you can you

Could you could either copy and paste in the chat and I could repost it and um make sure I’ll put it in the description as well for the um the Facebook group so those that just tuning in so um he has a group it’s on Facebook it’s a nonprofit

Right it’s a nonprofit and they uh post uh opportunities to buy land for certain different projects and um you know I asked them if you can if you got let’s say if you got five or $10,000 could you own real estate in South Africa and you know he said yes so

Um so let me put the um so here’s the the Facebook group for y’all to join um actually I’m I need I’m need to make sure I I I I join as well and let me also add as well um you know uh you can also um buy land for you know for

Personal use and what you know whatever you want to do with it um one thing we ask in a group is like you know whatever you would like to do with your land you’re able to do it um we’re looking to get into uh hemp uh production as well

So that’s one thing that we ask like when you when you buy land is like you know do you want to use it for residential or agricultural purposes so that way also we know how to lay it out because the next step that we’re doing um yeah so what you’re looking at right

Now is the um is the paperwork from the traditional Council which is basically like the um I don’t know how how would you describe that like the um like is it like a is it like a transfer ownership right yeah no this is indefinite this is indefinite like forever

Unless I mean you know you always have you I mean you do I mean like the cons right of of traditional land and I would say with State own land too you always have the possibility of your land getting taken or something happening you know right um like worst case scenario

Um they do um so say this chief that honored that signed this right um say you know he passes on then the next chief comes along um the chief will still honor that you know but I think always still a small percentage possibility that something could happen

Where they’re like no you got to leave this land or you gotta you know do this or do that and I think that’s possible with state owned land too with like a government change regime change military coup you know like it you know it’s kind

Of one of those things but I would have more I have more confident in um in knowing that you uh you helped people you know hand inand like it was a mutual benefit and not you know one way or the other well from from from my research you know

They do have a governing board so you know when you buy when you buy through the Chiefs they have a u what they call a trust a land trust and you know there’s paperwork and things um around it so um I believe that you do have protection because there is

A entity or organization you know around that but um but I guess whatever stipulations that y’all line out before you all sign paperwork you know that’s that’s what I would assume that you got that you have to stick with and like some Chiefs do have a requirement of

Three months to build if it’s residential right you know and if you don’t build with three months then they can you know take back the land you know so I want to buy land but I but I want to buy you know uh Urban Land I want to

Buy land that that that is already um you know that that’s part of the uh deeds and registry office that’s reg that’s basically registered land right you know with the government so um I’m gonna go through some of these questions in the chat U because someone asked this

Question initially how much how much for rural land or if you want to share how much that you that you purchase for your for your acre right so I I paid 500 for my acre for one for one acre 500 and so we were able to get it down to that

Price because as a gr what uh 500 US Dollars okay yeah so I was able so we were so we were able to get um get the price uh down to 500 because we were purchasing 40 acres you know as a group so then once we do that you know we we

Make the post we see you know um you know we did two rounds to give people a chance to buy land economics go ahead I’m listening when the second round came around um then everybody who was in the first round if you wanted to buy more land then you’re you know you’re more

Than happy more than you know more than happy to uh go ahead and you know partake so yeah so normally I would say the the Ral land if you per acre would go for about if you were like just doing it like solo maybe like a th5 to 3,000 I

Would say um through a chief um private on land I’m not sure I wouldn’t I wouldn’t know about the private own land part like private own rural land so so so this is group economics you know what I mean I like to hear so y’all got

A deal so you so you got a deal for 500 per acre but you had to buy a minimum of let’s say 40 acres um I wouldn’t say a minimum I would just say that’s like that’s what the um what our executive director was able to work out okay so

The deal was 40 acres at 500 an acre right you know and so since since you could since you wouldn’t be able to just purchase one acre on your own you you put it out there for people to to uh you know I mean to get in on it

And say we got 40 acres and you just decided that you wanted to buy one acre right yeah did the other 39 an Acres get accounted for or get right yeah yeah yeah we yeah we we we’ve already sold everything but um but I mean there’s you

Know they land is is they got land on land so um after we get our so yeah my bad that’s I got I got sidetracked but um so our next step is now getting a land survey so when we ask people if you want to use it for residential or

Agricultural um now we’re gonna um that’s how we’re going to group it and separate it so if you want it for residential then you know we might you know put it over here and then for agricultural we put it all together that way you know it’s all you know uh

Consecutive together so residential might be you know one side agricultural for the other or some people are even even doing like you know half acre for um for agriculture half the other half for you know for a little home so um so yeah so we’re um working on getting the

Um land survey done um that way we um you know get started with like irrigation fencing um that kind of thing I mean it makes sense I mean if you got a home I mean if you got a farm you need you want to live on your farm so you got to build

Right something to live on you know I mean which makes sense so man I mean I wish would have called me man be like yo $500 man get you an acre man I probably I would have been like where do I where do I oh yeah I I thought I said that in

The last one we did back in January no you did no you you did but I think I think that um you you know I I guess I didn’t really know how real how real it was you know I mean and then and then also I

Just Rec when I went to South Africa and did my own research I kind of got a better understanding on you know I mean how to protect myself so um so but my interest is my interest is is in quasi n that that’s where I that’s that’s where I’m looking to or Eastern

Cape so Eastern Cape okay I I got I haven’t been out there yet wait what’s up what’s up with Eastern Cape it’s it’s on the um it’s on the uh Indian Ocean so I like that side of South Africa on the Indian Ocean because it’s warmer oh okay

It’s warmer on that side versus the Western Cape which is on Atlantic Ocean so brother do you got anything on the horizon and quasi Nal or uh um well actually so where um so in qua um quazo n is like actually right on the other side of the mountains so

That’s what’s good about qu uh about quaqua um the other side is uh you have um what is it uh lutu and then the other side is um um uh uh quazo Nal just like just right over the mountains and um I got this video too where um where where

My um where our executive director was explaining to me like kind of a little bit of the history and like how um like these mountains and stuff were like like um like shakaz Zulu you know was coming through these mountains and King M the founder of like I guess I would say

Modern day Basu land um where you know we’re having battles over the land and you know and wars and that kind of stuff and um and a bit of history of like you know the boards that were moving that were moving Inland and you know that were moving into the freest state land

And which just you know it’s kind of breaking down a little bit of the history and so it’s very interesting um to get an Insight on that but um yeah okay but but but do you have any any any projects or or what do you or what’s on the horizon or what is

Something that’s an opportunity right now if if if there’s any through your um opportunity right now uh we don’t have any right now um as far as Morland but you know coming soon I mean there like when I was you know met with the chief

He’s like um you know we have more he was asking me you know do I like the land because I was actually the first um the first member from the us to come and visit the land um so I was the first one that he met with so he’s asking you know

Do you do you guys really like the land and because at that point we had we were already you know buying some of the Acres so he’s like you know if you guys don’t like you know over here you we got land on that we got land over here you

Know he’s just pointing pointing you know stuff like that and um yeah so I think once we get our survey done then we’ll open up another round of um of uh of uh you know opportunity to buy land and um yeah we’ll you know we’ll have

That in quaqua but uh as far as quazo Nel we don’t at this moment but um you know the possibilities are you know are endless like anything that we’re able to um to get a um to get a hold on like if you like if you have an idea you can

Post it in the group and we’re able to you know build on that because if we don’t if we don’t know anybody directly then our executive director would you know I mean if he doesn’t know anybody directly that could get us access to certain lands that I’m sure if you know

We could go to a chief or something like that in a certain area and as long as I think we come with a project maybe a water project you know what I’m saying or maybe some type of um you know in quazo Nel that actually just went

Through like a really bad um really bad flooding in heard you know maybe there’s some type of um relief project we could come up with or um you know for water food or shelter or something like that you know because we also do have a brick making um a brick making company there

As well so um you know um hold that thought hold that thought let me go through the chat real quick because I got I got some I got I got a few other questions for you so real quick Harvey asked about a certain time to develop

Land within a certain period so I could just I could answer this question I know uh Kimani said that um he didn’t have that conversation about developing um and I guess because it’s not residential but for what I for what I researched is that a lot of um um rural land that’s owned

By uh that’s owned by tribes and governed by Chiefs you know I mean if you buy residential if you buy land for residential purposes they typically want you to to um start construction with in three months right and and also I’ll just add um to it it all depends on you

Know um so so since we have the projects that we are doing um I don’t think there’s really like a time limit you know on what we’re doing as long as we um give him an give the chief an idea of you know a timeline at

Least they know you know what I’m saying um I think you’re you’re you’re good but generally really if you’re just strictly residential then yeah they do have that 90day um that 90day uh limit or time limit okay Trey de man said we can start our own neighborhood oh yeah facts yeah

Yeah that’s what we doing um so we’re also doing uh have bought land as a group in Tanzania as well some uh traditional land that we’re looking to do a um you know small community like Black Wall Street something like that okay I think we answer this question

Brother har let me know if if if we have oh how’s the land being distributed oh okay yeah so we so we bought it as a group so we get the we get the wholesale price as a group first like we get the proposal first and then we go to then we

Present it to the group and then we we get you know um you know once we get the price then we say okay you can buy uh acre of land at this price whoever wants to buy you know first come first serve okay so how do you guys um section

The land since because I’m pretty I’m I’m assuming uming they’re selling it as a big plaque and you guys right how are you how are you guys sectioning off each acre oh okay right so yeah so that so now that we have like like a deed you

Know like what we’re looking at right here the uh the deed from the traditional Council um after we get the land survey done which um which I learned that uh Chiefs don’t typically uh help with land surveys um so that’s something you got to Outsource so we’re currently Outsourcing that through you

Know um someone from the a company from municipality that’ll come out and do it and then once we get the survey for the whole plot then we’ll divide you know the Acres um amongst each other know how many or whoever bought how many acres we

Divide it that way gotch you but do did you select the the AC the I guess the area of the plot that you wanted or oh yeah yeah yeah oh yeah I got mine oh yeah yeah actually the picture that you have with the small house on it yeah

That that’s the one that I chose okay yeah I’m like I want that because you know it’s like nice and flat yeah this one right here oh let me go back right here yeah yeah this one right here okay okay I got wow wow wow okay so yeah after the

Survey then I understand you could get the uh you know the documentation on who who owns what or things of that nature um does it matter if the group entity is incorporated abroad so you’re buy it as a group or individual uh we bought it as a group so

We also so we have um so the um the ledge group is uh we do have an LLC here in um in the US and then once we start uh a project in the country we partner up with a local you know aka the executive director and um we also

Incorporate in that country as well so that way we we do set up a way of legal recourse of of uh for anything that we do for buying land um certain projects or businesses um um yeah that we may that we may do any Venture that we may

Do we have a legal entity set up for it okay um this is a little off topic but I know that I’ve seen Brothers come together to do projects and then unfortunately somebody died so do y’all have a h process if something happen something happened where their family is notified or proper ownership

Is trans have y’all ever had those conversations oh right yeah so um so we do have those conversations actually pretty often um we are able to so members of the organization are able to put um maybe put in a note that you know if anything

Were to happen to me then I would want to pass it down to this person if you don’t have any Offspring right okay we do we do have those conversations okay um Trader man asked a question is free stay by at swatini or so Soo oh oh lutu oh so it’s it’s right

It’s right on the um the border of lutu actually surrounding like the whole the whole Northern B like Northern and like western border part of it but it’s about five uh five hours drive from s Yi as is and it’s like right in between joelberg

And deran too so I kind of like that as well like the the location of it it’s a four hour drive from you know this way that way okay um do you got did you guys calculate any cost of construction yet uh we did not we did not um but that’s

One of the things that’s going to be um included when we do the survey because we’re also going to have to um so it’s right so the land is like uh maybe 500 meters from uh from the um what’s the name of that border uh from a border

Post into litu it’s not currently open due to covid and they’re also doing road work on the other side but the road leading up to it is like perfectly fine um okay but it uh but we’re going to have to build like another Road leading off to um going towards the land there’s

Like already like a walk pathway that somebody built because I mean as you can see somebody used to live out there so but I mean it’s no longer anybody living out there so there’s a walkway path but eventually yeah we’re gonna have to you know build a road but that’s something

That we’re going to get inside the budget once we get the um survey done wow wow somebody said crazy internet said what kind of animals is out there where you bought 40 acres oh man yeah I’m I’m trying to the first thing I’m gonna get when I get my

I’m getting some goats and probably a horse is there any Wildlife um is there any Wildlife that’s kind of out there that you know about um that I’ve seen just uh this thing called a springbok which uh you did you heard of springb when you out there I guess it’s kind of

Like a um would be like a deer like a moose kind of thing yeah yeah I ate one too it it was kind of it was kind of nice I ain’t goingon to lie but um but yeah it’s a spring box is out there um other than that I’ve heard like you know

Like Mountain cats like you know like you know small like um like I don’t want to say like lions or you know tigers or like that but like Bobcats I guess something like that other than that uh I don’t think there’s really anything out there you know small mammals rodents that kind of

Thing okay yeah but from what I’ve seen just spring block though I mean I’ve seen even in urban Durban I I’ve seen some some monkeys you know I seen some monkeys which was different um what’s your role in in the nonprofit uh so my role I I um I’m doing

Videography and photography and uh like social media managing as well so um basically that’s pretty much what I was going there to do is like on assignment was to take videos and you know do like a introduction video of um of how long we’ve been working um of how we got it

Started in South Africa and the water project and how it’s servicing the community different things like that because we also do look um outside of how we raise funds in between the group we also look for you know we may look for outside investors that may want to

Be a part of certain projects or you what have you depending on what it is okay um more future said I I’ll post a Facebook group Link in the um in the chat again but he says do do they accept anyone um who’s to be a part of the

Group right yeah pretty much yeah I mean if you black you would us yeah I mean that’s pretty much it I think um the founder Peter Brown he’s originally from Boston he has a background in like cyber security and engineering and stuff like that so he does a um he does a little

Bit of a a some type of background check when you um not when you so the link that we posted you can anybody can go in there that group is public Facebook group okay no I was just saying what I’m just posting this is the Facebook group

So anybody can click yeah so so that’s the public group so yeah anybody can go in there and see what we got going on and see you know what the areas we’re active in and then um yeah the founder has a has a background of cyber security

And stuff like that so he he has his own process that he does um once you um once you decide to become a member um and join then you once you uh make a request for the for the private group then then that’s when he’ll do like some type of

Background check or whatever I really don’t know the process but um he has his own you know little method okay okay so is it is it limited to I guess is it intended for for black uh enrichment or because you mentioned you mentioned if you’re a

Brother so is it is it like is it for black people right yeah strictly for black people yeah okay okay okay but we’re not against the working with people but as far as the group and what and the things that we have access to yeah you got

Okay yeah I mean I understand it’s a nonprofit that has goals and initiatives to you know Reach people that may that how do I say that have been deprived of certain information other groups have been privy to for so long so I definitely understand that um what’s up Jud travels oh yeah

Shout out you how tanzia man so yeah um talking with him on the passport Bros podcast in our show is scheduled at in 15 minutes so um so yeah so I’m definitely gonna um let me make sure I post that link as well but um but yeah we still

Got we we still got some some time to um to rock out so I wanted to ask you this because this is this is something I know South Africa is very very very um strict on and it’s it’s it’s it’s residency and visas oh Vis word yeah so

So what so what is it so what yeah tell us about the Visa conversations you guys had um because it’s one thing to own you could you could own land in South Africa under a tourist visa but as you know a tourist visa is typically 90 days so it’s

Basically you’re basically property that you only could spend 90 days out the year so tell us about long-term uh Visa options right oh yeah so for me I’ve just been on on a tourist visa um for the time that I’ve spent there um collectively probably about like four

Months um I was there from December to February then went back in uh like over for 420 and stuff and then just just got back to the US but um yeah that’s something I’ve been thinking about too and for me I’m not married I have no

Kids so um I’m thinking my wife gonna be from South Africa to be honest with you um especially for for what I want for the projects that I want to do in South Africa somewhere that I see myself being long term so I’m probably it’s gonna

Make sense for me to like have a wife there and even with um I mean even with that kind of Visa it takes a while to get like approved and you know stuff like that even and then um the way I understand it is that once you once you get these um

Uh oh so the different types of Visa that they have they have the business Visa which has you know different um levels there’s the retirement Visa which you can access at any age as long as you have show that you have a residual income um that’s at least I want to say

I think it was 2,500 um like 37,000 Ren u i probably look that up real quick but uh okay 2 about 2,200 89 so um so yeah as long as you show that you have a residual income of that then you’re able to get a retirement visa and that’s for

Any age um other than that you know there’s the the um the marriage visa um and then they have what’s called a life partner Visa which is like if you’re traditionally married but not married on paper you just gotta prove that live together with somebody for a certain

Period of time um but uh you know these are all visas permanent residence is like a whole different thing there and so some of these visas you have to hold for like the marriage visa for example I think you have to hold that for five years and then you get permanent

Residence and then once you get permanent residents then that’s when your clock starts towards citizenship and I well well well I research this I research the citizenship Americans can’t well let’s say this Americans foreigners can’t get dual citizenship only only your only if you have a only your child can get dual

Citizenship if you have a child with a African oh some countries like colia Brazil Dr you can be a dual citizen but I I know in South Africa most of in southern Africa you would have to pick one South Africa or United States but if you have a child your child could

Benefit from both but but but you can’t oh okay dang I didn’t know that I thought you had to um I thought it was just a long process to do no citizensh I mean but I mean the difference between citizenship and permanent residency is basically the ability to vote right yeah

I mean that that’s the that’s the main thing ability to vote so and then other uh you know maybe tax tax uh tax benefits or things of that nature but if you’re not trying to vote for the most part you president rcy you know I mean I

Thought about that too like I would think that as long as my kids were straight I think would be fine um like if I had permanent residents but they were able to benefit from having you know us and South African citizenship and I think that would be fine that’s

Something I’ve thought about because I I’ve even like looked at you know um getting a another passport in South America somewhere working out option like like I know in Brazil like you could um like if a child is born in Brazil regardless of the parents nationalities um the child

Is a citizen automatically and then the parents can apply for du a permanent residency just from having a child and then a year I would say 12 to 18 months after that you could apply for citizenship yeah was one that I was looking at yeah Brazil is pretty easier because I know I

Mean I know a couple people that had children um and you know they got residency you know what I mean but places like Dr you just can’t have a baby for residency you got to be married you know Colombia is is is changing his laws too

So you got to be married you just can’t have a baby you know mean but Brazil you can have a baby without marriage and get and get residency for those that didn’t know and and that’s one thing too I would say that um I would like to see

Brothers talk about more you know um as far as like um you know we I know a lot of brothers maybe you know veterans retired or whatever they do Perpetual traveling and or you know or may have a home base somewhere else but uh I don’t think visas get talked about enough like

Visas the different types of visas residency um you know and even citizenship I think that’s something that um that we could all learn from as well true true I I brought Visa conversations up you know but sometimes it don’t get traction but I mean I think it’s something that you know I should

You know bring up bring up again because yeah like I’ve tried to post about you know like the African sestry DNA test you know about certain countries like Ghana guine B Leone are you know our our gring citizenship you know based on you know lineage based results and you know

Descendants and in the diaspora and stuff like that so I I think it’s something worth looking into especially you know to have a a second option to know go and buy land in those countries or you know um you know build homes and different things like

That uh question uh Harvey asked uh what may uh Kimani decide to settle in South Africa having visited all of these other countries especially in East and West Africa oh right good question um so so far I’ve been to six countries in Africa uh Ghana Sierra Leon Cape ver uh

Tanzania yeah and in South Africa and lutu um what’s what has me in South Africa now is um the opportunities that I see and the projects that we’re doing there and then also I would like to get into so my brand virtual heart right um

I would like to uh make um or get into making souven and t-shirts and stuff like that I have been over the years like I would make you know certain things inspired by the location that I’m traveling to and then you know give it out to free for people do you know a

Little photo shoot stuff like that um but I would really like to do cannabis tourism like that’s where my real passion is and I I started that when I was in LA like um I was doing things you know um marketing towards you know that

Type of um that type of crowd but I don’t know something happened where like I had my Shopify website and they um there was a feature we were able to link it through Instagram then I don’t know they started like Banning like Banning me from Instagram and stuff so I kind of

Like stopped doing it but in South Africa they’re going towards um you know they’re still going towards recreational legalization and um and I actually uh have was reading like a um I guess like a memorandum or a um articles of uh of the bill or the um

[ __ ] I don’t know whatever they they come up with to detail everything that’s going to happen in this bill when they pass it and it covers you know Recreation and um cannabis use for tourism and different things like that so they’re trying to open up those

Markets and the crazy thing about it too is that there’s already companies that are doing things like that especially over 420 there was like things in Cape Town they were doing called like the Kush Cruise you know they were having Bud tastings and different things like

That on a cruise you know around the Western Cape um so I would love to get in do something like that and then eventually relay that into doing Resort um a cannabis friendly Resort where we can do wellness retreats um uh yeah different things like that so

That’s where my real like long-term goal passion is is in cannabis tourism and right now South Africa is like you know number one in the world I would say um reading that as a country as a whole wow wow wow man man you you you uh you gave

A lot of information man um I definitely um encourage people to join the Facebook group I just did um there are F there are five questions that you got to answer before uh I guess you could get approved in a group but they’re pretty pretty straightforward um I’m interested in

Quas N to or um you know Eastern Cape so that’s something you said I could kind of maybe pose a question or right or even you know be the be the um the be the Trailblazer in that side you know because I mean it’s all it’s all up to

What the members want to do like we have things we do as a group and then there’s things you can do you know essentially yourself like things you can you know bring to the Forefront and kind of lead like I I mean man we there’s all types

Of opportunities um you know we yeah like we you know we have a we have a coffee uh Plantation in Uganda so we have a member who’s in charge of like um wholesaling the coffee so different members who want to sell the coffee in the US you know we have access to

Wholesale prices you know that we can get and you know the whole shipping thing you know ship it directly to you and then you know the coffee that you sell that’s that’s you know that’s that profit is yours you know wow wow wow so an idea I have is

That I have put it in the Facebook group but I didn’t get a lot of traction but I wanted to do um I want you know a warehouse is always good because um a lot of imports come in and you know people may not have place the storm and

So I want to build I want to be able to build just empty warehouses where people can lease the space um you know for incoming Freights that come in or um or trucks that come in but it it would have to be in a strategic location because you know for Trans for transportation

Routes but I would definely I definitely want to um do a project like that so I definitely um you know put it out there and you know May and you can talk to people about it as well um you’re in the US right now right yep I’m in the US

Right now okay where where you from in the US I’m originally from the Midwest but right now but I’m in Philadelphia oh nice okay that’s one of my favorite cities in the US I ain’t gonna lie so I got about two more minutes so um two questions uh Harvey said oh he

Asked me you thinking of setting up Canabis business in Colombia I’m not doing any business in Colombia my the only thing in Colombia is my my wife and I’m trying and I’m and I want us to live in South Africa how does if you don’t mind me

Asking how does she think about a South Africa like from what you tell her and stuff I mean she’s excited I mean partly because she’s afro Colombian and she Embraces being an afro Latina and you know I mean and she sees that people that look like her word okay you know I

Mean so yeah she’s she definitely um is excited about it you know I mean and South Africa is I would say a first world country um but yeah I we I definitely would want to partner up with him and then um me see how can we buy coffee from Uganda Le

Loto pretty big on Canabis okay I didn’t know about um I didn’t know about the Cannabis industry but um but yeah uh if you if you want to answer this question and give your clothing thoughts because I got a stream that I gotta start in two

Minutes okay okay so um so yeah so we have a member who’s um a member Otis he’s in charge of the uh the coffee in Uganda so I could put you in contact with him and um see if we can set that up I think you I think you could so if

You wanted to like buy the coffee like at retail price then we could I could do that for you but if you were looking to do like wholesale then you would have to be a member in order to access you know that as a benefit okay so I would say

Harvey join the Facebook group the link is in the chat and then and you can probably proceed from there and then um so I’m doing two more streams so on the passport Bros podcast I just posted a link I’m about to do a stream with brother JW travels on Tanzania and then

Back on this channel at45 eastern time which is two hours from now I’m going to uh hopefully have some ladies from bwana and we’re g to talk about um bana can I add one more thing my fa go ahead um Okay so order to become an

Official member of the group there is a fee um for single adults for single males right or single adults period it’s um it is a th000 but that fee that you pay goes towards a active project that we have ongoing it could either go towards an active project or maybe something that

You would like to start um so uh yeah so a th000 for single adults um 500 for dependence like kids under 18 and I think over 18 is like 750 um so yeah so there is a fee to actually join the group but the link

That we posted is for um is a public group so that’s for you to you know go through everything um ask questions about any country you may have any project um that we have ongoing um get a feel for it because I got a feel for it

For at least eight months before I join you know um so yeah so I just wanted to make sure that was clear my bad I just want to make sure I mention that so that way people say oh we gotta pay like yeah I don’t want to surprise nobody but

Those fees aren’t going towards paying anybody’s bills you know it’s going towards yeah um an active project buying land equipment um yeah stuff like that all right cool brother appreciate your time man thank you thank you for having me about to start the other stream on another uh on another podcast all right

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