The Italian Alpine Blue Cheese That Doesn’t Turn Blue (Castelmagno d’Alpeggio) | Claudia Romeo

Today we’re in Valliera, Piedmont, Italy to see how Castelmagno cheese is made. This cheese is a very special blue cheese because, actually, unlike other blue cheeses, it’s not 100% guaranteed that it will turn blue. The reason for that is that, unlike other blue cheeses, it is not inoculated with the fungus, the Penicillium

That creates the blue veins, but rather, it is left to age in caves where the fungus is naturally present. The cheese is also not pierced, which is also something that also happens in other blue cheeses. And that means that the fungus has little space to actually penetrate the cheese.

And cheesemakers in the area actually have no say in whether or not the blue veins will actually form. There are some cheeses that never get them and some that get very little. Castelmagno can either be Di Montagna or D’Alpeggio. That means either from the mountain or actually from the Alps,

Which are much higher. And that means that the cows are grazing at a much higher altitude. In fact, today we’re at 1,500 meters above sea level. You can guess it from the fog that’s behind me. It’s very different from the landscape that I’m used to in the south of Italy.

Today we’re going to meet with Enzo, the cheesemaker at the Des Martin dairy. He’s going to show us how the Alps Castelmagno is made. I cannot wait to see it and then, who knows, maybe today we’re going to see some blue veins, maybe not.

It’s all part of the game for this cheese. Let’s go. The day begins with the arrival of this morningsโ€™ milk, which Enzo uses in combination with the evening milk from the day before. With this amount of milk, Enzo will make 6 wheels of Castelmagno, each weighing around 5 kg.

Enzo is using only cowโ€™s milk today, but Castelmagno cheese can also be made with goat’s milk. Because the morning and evening milks have very different temperatures, eaching the ideal temperature for the next step is a slow process. Making a wheel of Castelmagno cheese

Takes over 5 days in total from start to finish, But no making process is linear in cheesemaking. Usually, Enzo spends his days at the dairy juggling between different tasks. While he waits for the milk to reach the targeted 35 degrees, heโ€™s busy cutting blocks of curd from the day before

Or milling curd that is four days old. But more on these steps laterโ€ฆ When the milk is ready, Enzo adds rennet. It will take about 30 mins for the milk to split into curds and whey. After the curd is cut, Enzo will keep stirring to further separate the curd and whey.

When the curd is ready, Enzo connects the vat to another vat downstairs to drain the excess whey and transfer the curd. Some whey will be saved to be used at a later stage of the making process. The curd will rest here overnight until it drains more whey

And itโ€™s a more solid block to work with. Tomorrow, Enzo will move it to this vat here, where it will stay from two to four days to ferment. Do you remember the excess whey from todayโ€™s production? Enzo just added it to yesterdayโ€™s curd, which is currently maturing in this vat here.

After fermentation, here they are: three-days old blocks of curd that are ready to be milled and salted. Now itโ€™s time to transfer the curd into the six molds that will make six wheels of Castelmagno. Each wheel is marked with this, the symbol of Castelmagno cheese.

Although the cheeses will be pretty compact when they get out of the press, Enzo tells me that this method allows him to still leave some room for the blue mold to attack the cheeses later. They will stay in the press for two days.

They will then be transferred to a series of caves to age. At 10 days old, the wheels are transferred to another cave, where they will age for up to one year. And here is where Castelmagno will start its journey to becoming blue cheese. Maybe!

Both caves have a strong presence of penicillium roqueforti, the mold that gives blue cheeses blue veins. Yes, roqueforti like Roquefort, the iconic French blue cheese, But we’re in Italy for today. Maybe that’s material for another video. For most blue cheeses, the mold has been isolated

And is usually added in liquid form at the start of the cheesemaking process, and then itโ€™s encouraged to grow through controlling the aging environment. You can see this happening in Stichelton, a wonderful blue cheese that Iโ€™ve covered before on my channel.

I’m going to link the video up here if you’re interested. But to make Castelmagno, Enzo hasn’t added anything. Itโ€™s up to the mold that is naturally present in the cave to make its way into the cheese. The only thing that Enzo can do is make the cave

As cozy as it can be for the fungus to really feel at home. The fungus likes humidity. And the floor is kept deliberately wet to keep the room humid all year long. But it’s not just penicillium, in the cave there are different molds,

like this one that looks like cotton balls called geotrichum that helps with the cheese ripening. Although some mold growth is encouraged, this doesn’t mean that Enzo can just abandon the cheeses in the cave for one year. He needs to constantly attend the cave to turn the wheels

to ensure they keep an even shape. He also needs to wash away any unwanted molds with water and salt, like this one he colloquially calls โ€œcat hairโ€ Because weโ€™re in the Alps, getting to the dairy gets trickier and trickier as the weather gets colder.

Because of the remote location, Castelmagno is only made in the summer months. Castelmagno has a minimum aging of 60 days, but Enzo likes to age his cheeses from eight months up to one year. He told me he even tried a four-year-old Castelmagno, which according to him tastes amazing.

Perks of the job, right? So what is the best way to eat Castelmagno? Well, if you’ve made it this far, chances are that, like me, you like to eat cheese on its own, as a snack, as if it was chips. But actually a very traditional dish here in Piedmont is gnocchi al Castelmagno,

Which is homemade gnocchi and a lot of melted Castelmagno cheese. The staff at the dairy prepared some for me and it was absolutely dreamy. And if you get your hands on Castelmagno, I 100% recommend this dish. Thank you so much for watching this video and for showing support to the channel.

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Castelmagno cheese is a very special blue cheese because, unlike other blue cheeses, it’s not 100% guaranteed that it will turn blue. The reason for that is that, unlike other blue cheeses, it is not inoculated with the fungus, Penicillium Roqueforti, that creates the blue veins, but rather, it is left to age in caves where the fungus is naturally present. So cheesemakers in the area have no say in whether or not the blue veins will actually form. There are some cheeses that never get them and some that get very little. I met Enzo from the Des Martin dairy in Valliera, Piedmont, Italy to see how Castelmagno cheese is made.

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The Italian Alpine Blue Cheese That Doesn’t Turn Blue (Castelmagno d’Alpeggio) | Claudia Romeo
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:23 Raw milk arrives at the dairy
03:24 Adding rennet
04:51 Splitting the milk into curds
08:02 Draining the whey
09:30 Enzoโ€™s story
12:22 Castelmagno Dโ€™Alpeggio
13:02 Milling and salting the curd
14:29 Marking each wheel with the symbol of Castelmagno
16:28 Aging and developing the blue veins
23:25 Tasting
28:01 Gnocchi al Castelmagno

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  1. I would love a video just collecting all the places in Italy you've been and what to get there. Like Claudia's travel itinerary. All the food you show looks amazing and I would love to do a food tour one day

  2. Amazing video and respect to Enzo for being able to make this transition into an artisanal cheese maker. Bringing back life and productivity to this property while preserving tradition. Bellissimo.

  3. Just stumbled across your channel and am glad that I did. I am just starting to make cheese as a hobby and the depth of knowledge these people share is helpful. Most people tend to be very secretive about their process. Thank you for the great content. Iโ€™m looking forward to seeing what you get into next. Subscribed.

  4. Damn, only now noticed Claudiahas her own channel. Subscribed! I used to watch her videos on an otherwise awful channel (cant even remember its name) . Claudia is one the few women my wife is jealous of (openly๐Ÿ˜…)

  5. This is wonderful to watch!
    If the natural mold takes so long to develop, why not let it age much longer? Is there some aspect that is harmed by longer aging?

    Many decades ago when I was quite young, we lived in Desio, North of Milano (though my command of the language has become too rusty to use). We traveled all over the place, esp Tyrol, Switzerland Germany & Austria. It was also the only time I got to see my grandparents in the Netherlands relatively frequently (we lived in various states in the US most of the time). I learned about all sort of interesting food. I also remember a restaurant that served old style banquet meals (many, many courses including several types of pasta, several types of pasta in brodo, meat dishes of various types (veal, pork, chicken, etc) and so on. That was called Il Gran Sasso. There was another one that specialized in risotto. I don't know the name of that one but it had to be north of us as it was a chalet style building with the first floor backing into a hill, and a second floor level patio behind the building that was accessed by stairs cut into the hill, with mountains around. (We also would spend time in Sirmione in the summers.)
    I do also cook Dutch food & pastry and enjoyed your coverage of Dutch cheese making.
    I had to laugh at the end. All of my family snacks on cheese. We like Leiden very much. My dad was fond of Edam, and I also like very young and very aged Gouda.
    In addition to Italian & Dutch cheeses, I am very fond of Sap Sago, but it is extremely difficult to find in the US.

  6. I have learnt so much from your previous cheese documentaries throughout the last few years, that now I have established the first proper artisan cheese caseificio in Thailand. It's called Jartisann. Thanks Claudia, you have been so charming and so talented at creating such wonderful entertaining, insightful, inspiring videos. Your videos have been big inspirations to my company's existence. Bless you and your team.

  7. I just happened to stumble onto your channel. I found this fascinating. I love cheese and all things Italian! I've even started learning the language so I get an extra bonus watching.

  8. Claudia your programs are fabulous. I loved this episode. The cheese maker is so relaxed and gracious. What a cheese- and that gnocchi! Bellissimo

  9. I love how Italians appreciate the natural simplicity of things. Exactly like this, he introduces the mould but whether or not it spreads throughout the cheese matters not. Like all of his cheeses are perfect no matter how they come out. I love it.

  10. So interesting. I watch a video like this and I think to myself how did we ever invent making cheese. I can a little bit better understand We figured out how to cure and dry meats but making cheese I would never have done it.

  11. Claudia, thank you again for another wonderfuly educational and perfectly produced video, free from jump cuts, brash music and recaps. This guy's passion for his product is next level, what a life they must elad in the mountains, how can they NOT produce a truly spectacular cheese?! I really want to eat this cheese and that gnocchi dish, bonnissim!! Really looking forward to the next episode on your culinary journey, your passion and curiosity really come through and it's a delight to be part of it, if only as a viewer. Salut, des de Catalunya!

  12. I am so very happy to see that Claudia was able to start her own channel, she is the most charming polylingual host and her passion for the foods and attention to detail and the fact she is not shy to ask questions make her coverage such a joy to watch! She also has a very talented team of videographers and editors that I am glad to see came with her!! Congratulations, Claudia๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ˜ƒ

  13. He was a very good interview. Knowledgeable, shared his history, and when he smiles or laughed it was contagious. Iโ€™d love to visit a place like that and more so that particular place. Great job Claudia.

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