BOSTON to CHICAGO with Amtrak Lake Shore Limited
This is the Amtrak Lake Shore Limited, connecting two of the Northeast’s biggest cities, New York and Boston, to the Windy City… Chicago! Come along with me on this 22-hour rail odyssey between Boston and Chicago. And no, folks, you won’t see any luxurious sleeping cars or fancy
Meals in the dining car. On this journey, I will travel in the least covered class by YouTubers… THE COACH ACCOMMODATION. But you’ll see in this video that it can be better than you think and totally worth it! In this video you’ll see some beautiful New England landscapes,
Some dope Amtrak shunting, microwaved food from the café car, a comfy night, the beautiful landscape of Ohio and maybe Indiana…. Sit back and relax this ride on the Amtrak Lake Shore Limited Our journey starts in the beautiful Boston South Station, which is the northern end of
The Northeast Corridor. South Station’s building was inaugurated in 1899, during a time when train travel was considered cool in North America. It used to have one of the biggest train sheds ever, which was demolished in 1930. Now, the only nice part of South Station is the front building;
The rest of the station reminds me a bit of the old Penn Station in New York, which was rebuilt in the ’70s with offices and a parking lot above the train station – an idea we thought was good back then! However, there’s a massive revamping
Project around South Station, and it has been under construction for years. So if you’re going to Boston in the future, the station should, in theory, be more open and enjoyable. Apart from this, you’ll find some shops in the station. Since I will be traveling in coach for
The next 22 hours, I prefer to stock up on some food and drinks. Yes, folks, I will be traveling in coach today. The sleeping car was just overpriced for a 22-hour journey. The price for a roomette was above $800, and I couldn’t afford it. To be fair, I’ve done several long-distance
Journeys with Amtrak in coach, and I’ve always had a wonderful time for the price I paid. I rode the Coast Starlight and Crescent in coach. You can watch these videos in the Amtrak Long Distances Playlist. In both cases, I slept very well and almost better than my times in a Roomette. so
I’m quite excited for the Lake Shore Limited. The Lake Shore Limited used to be operated by the mighty New York Central Railroad until 1956. Once Amtrak took over the operation of most passenger services in the United States, Amtrak retained the Lake Shore and initially ran
The train only between Chicago and New York. Amtrak only started operating the Lake Shore Limited in its current formation in 1975! Indeed, the Lake Shore Limited is one of the rare Amtrak long-distance services along with the Empire Builder to be split and serve two different
Destinations. You can take the Lake Shore from New York to Chicago or from Boston to Chicago. Both trains will meet later in Albany, NY, and be connected together to form only one train. The scheduled departure from Boston is at 12:50 PM, and surprisingly, they only allow passengers
To board 20 minutes ahead of departure! I’ve seen earlier boarding with Amtrak, especially for such a small train. The Boston section of the Lake Shore is the smallest, comprising only two coach cars, one café car, and a sleeping car. The New York section, however, is longer,
With three coach cars, a true dining car (not a café car), two sleeping cars, and one luggage car. A friendly reminder that drinks and meals are included if you’re traveling with a sleeping car ticket. This is not the case for me, but a reminder is always welcome! So, folks,
If you are traveling from Boston in a sleeping car, you’ll have to wait until AFTER Albany, once both trains are reunited, to enjoy your meal at the dining car. Keep in mind that Amtrak still hasn’t reintroduced traditional dining, but I truly hope they will soon.
Our train will be hauled until Albany by a P42 DC number 103 today! Nothing fancy here, just a good old Genesis engine. Let’s enjoy it while it lasts! The Chargers are right around the corner, folks! Let’s board our train, shall we? As always with long-distance trains east of the Mississippi,
You’ll travel onboard the good old Amfleet II. Despite not being a fan of the first series, the second series is way more enjoyable, probably due to the larger windows and bigger seat pitch between seats. Speaking of windows, we immediately spotted the dirty window on our side,
So my friend John, who came along for the ride with me, volunteered himself to go out and clean the window. We went from 720p to 4K definition. SEAT CHECK As always with Amtrak, you’ll find one of the best seat pitch ever on a train. There is a
Little table that you can adjust to your liking. Two 110v power outlets on the side; you’ll find a curtain for nighttime, but the best part of coach accommodation is the seat. Like my friend Alan Fisher likes to call them, it’s a true American recliner. Large and comfy. On the long-distance
Fleet, the seat reclines comfortably. Sleeping here is totally fine if you find a good position, but I will tell you more about it tonight. We left Boston South Station right on time at 12:50 pm – our ride to Chicago will take us 22 hours and 22 minutes for a total distance of 1,017
Miles, which is 1,637 km – The Boston section is the longest one; traveling from New York is shorter. For example, going toward Chicago, New York passengers will leave Manhattan at 3:40 pm. The good thing about the Lake Shore is its relatively good on-time performance
For a long-distance train – in 2022, according to Amtrak, the Lake Shore Limited is the 2nd best long-distance train when it comes to on-time performance. 63% of the trains were on time. The best being the Palmetto at 70% – of course, many countries will laugh at these stats, but
For North America where freight railroads are like gangsters towards passenger trains, 63% is great. And off we go west! During the first part of the afternoon, we’re slowly getting out of the Boston area and running on MBTA territory on the Worcester Line; this is the
Only Amtrak train to run on these tracks! We made a longer stop in Worcester at the end of the MBTA line; the station is under deep refurbishment to increase the capacity of the station. That’s a good sign! But at the moment, it’s quite a mess!
After Worcester, we went through some very remote areas of the states of Massachusetts, and to be fair, we did nothing except watch the landscape going by. It was super relaxing! The first big stop of the afternoon is Springfield, Massachusetts. This is NOT a
Smoke stop, but the train stops there for at least FIVE minutes due to the high number of passengers getting in and out. Springfield serves as a massive passenger rail hub in the region, with Amtrak service on the Hartford Line, Vermonter, Lake Shore Limited, and also some
Northeast Regional trains serving Springfield. Right after Springfield, we are crossing the Connecticut River… The rest of the afternoon was pretty chill; we briefly stopped in Pittsfield, Massachusetts. Our train once again crosses some very wild parts of the US, and this is definitely the best part about traveling with Amtrak; the train
Will take you to wild places. All you have to do is relax and enjoy the scenery going by. Now it’s time for one of the best things to do on a long train journey, as we like to say in France,
“Apéro,” or just drinking some booze before our dinner tonight. I went for some IPA beers from the café car, and my friend John went for his classic cocktail, vodka diet coke, an all-time classic! We went for one, two, three rounds before our arrival in Albany Rensselaer station! As explained
Earlier, our train will be reunited with train number 49 Lake Shore Limited, New York – Chicago. Our train, the 449, Boston to Chicago, always arrives first at 6:10 PM. Then another P42 DC is attached to the consist, and the train 49 arrives from New York, gets its engine removed. Then the
449 Boston section moves forward to then back up and couple with the New York section to form a unique train with the final destination Chicago! We arrived a bit earlier in Albany at 6:00 PM, and as soon as I set foot on the platform, I saw the beauty that will haul our train
Tonight. The second P42 added is a special heritage unit for Amtrak’s 50th anniversary, the P42 108 is in the Phase VI livery scheme. I’m usually lucky when I ride Amtrak trains; I usually have special liveries units such as the 156 or 160 on the Southwest Chief.
And here’s the New York section arriving with a delay of 10 minutes… The crew of Albany is detaching the P32 from the New York section… Amtrak can’t use regular P42 out of New York since their diesel engine is banned in the tunnels of New York. The P32 uses
A third rail pickup shoes to get its power. If you want to know more about this subject, I invite you to watch my video on the Amtrak Empire service between New York and Albany! And there she goes! Have a good night, P32… Now the two P42 108 and 103 are pulling up
From Albany with the Boston section… to then back up on the New York section! All good! Ready to go! It was a very fun operation to watch if you are interested in trains; a shunting action is something quite rare within the Amtrak network. You can see
Something similar in San Antonio, TX on the Texas Eagle or in Spokane, WA on the Empire Builder, but the shunting action is during nighttime. The Lake Shore has one of the rare shunting at a decent time of the day! And of course, if you don’t care about the train,
You can walk around in Albany – feel free to do so, just try to be back on time for the departure of the train at 7:05 PM; we left with a delay of 8 minutes… nothing serious within Amtrak’s standard.
Right after Albany, we went back to our spot in the café car and had our dinner! I went for the mac and cheese, a pop, and some rice crispy treats. Not the healthiest dinner I’ve had, but oh well. Don’t expect five-star food from the café car, but at least it has the
Credit to be rather cheap. I paid $12.50 + $2.50 for tips. Don’t forget that you’re on a train and not at your local Walmart! We went to sleep after Utica, NY, right after 9 PM. On coach, the light goes off after 10 PM; in this case,
They’ve dimmed the light after Syracuse, NY. Pro tip for your first night on coach, always bring a hoodie, something to create a pillow. I usually use another hoodie, a sleeping mask, some earplugs, and a noise-canceling headset, and you’re off to a good night. And exactly like my
Other experiences, I slept like a baby until the next morning. I only woke up briefly in Cleveland, Ohio, since many people were boarding. I woke up at 8:30 am just before Elkhart in the state of Indiana, as you can see with the New York Central railroad museum. So yeah, I slept pretty hard.
Luckily, my travel buddy John woke up earlier this night to capture the sunrise in the gorgeous states of Indiana… Our train is currently following the famous water level route of the New York Central. Instead of going through the Appalachians between New York and Chicago,
New York Central took the long way around by following the rivers and the great lakes. This allowed the New York Central to run fast and heavy trains due to the low gradient along the route. By the way, don’t forget to like and subscribe to the channel if you are enjoying this content;
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It is called Minitrak by Simply Railway. This is South Bend, Indiana, and man, what’s going on here? That’s a lot of people! We later understood that there was a college football game hosted at Notre Dame University the day before… When I see how busy can be a train that comes only
Once a day here. This is a clear sign that this country deserves better public transportation. After South Bend, the Lake Shore is running alongside the South Shore Line, one of the most unique commuter train operations in North America. Definitely on my bucket list, but every time I’m
Planning a trip on the South Shore Line, something gets in the way and I have to cancel my journey! Let’s review more of our train, shall we? This is the beautiful unused dining car. For now, it’s used as a common area for sleeping car passengers. I really hope Amtrak will
Reintroduce traditional dining on the Lake Shore; sleeping car passengers deserve better for the price of the ticket. Speaking of sleeping car, I wasn’t able to access it since I wasn’t holding a sleeping car ticket. But if you are curious to see what it’s like to travel on a sleeping car on the
East coast, I invite you to watch my video on the Silver Meteor between New York and Miami or on the Cardinal between Chicago and Washington D.C. Welcome to the coach section… The New York section seemed to be more crowded than the Boston… So if you want
Some quietness, Boston might be a better bet And this is the Café car we were in last night. Accessible to every passenger on the train! And now comes the toilet time. And even after running 20 hours non-stop, the toilets are still in okay condition, clean and
Fully functional. Good job there, Amtrak. Near Chesterton, we can see the junction with all the Amtrak Michigan services. The Wolverine, Pere Marquette, and Blue Water trains are using this line up north to the state of Michigan. This is the fantastic city of Gary, Indiana, not
The fanciest city to visit in the United States. Before arriving in Chicago, let’s talk a bit about the price. I paid $185 two weeks before departure for this journey between Boston and Chicago, and honestly, it’s a good price. $185 for a 22-hour journey. Traveling in coach with
Amtrak is usually a good deal. It’s not the most comfortable, but it will get you there! To my great surprise (we had a bet with my friend, I was positive we wouldn’t be on time), and we arrived in Chicago not on time but with an advance of 38 minutes! You hear a
Lot about Amtrak getting late and yadi yada, but we never hear when Amtrak arrives earlier, so thumbs up for that! Upon arrival in Chicago, don’t miss the massive Amtrak yard. You’ll find loads of cool stuff; of course, if you are not a train nerd, it’s just a bunch of Amtrak engines
And cars sitting around a yard, but you know, for trains people, it’s like a candy store! Chicago serves as a central hub for Amtrak for all of its operations; the yard is impressive. And if
You have some time to kill in Chicago, go for a walk on the Roosevelt Road bridge. It’s worth it! All in all, the Lake Shore Limited is a very enjoyable, not the most scenic but enjoyable and useful, the schedule especially between New York and Chicago makes a lot of sense. Leaving in
The afternoon in New York, fall asleep and wake up a few miles east of Chicago. I’m also very glad to have chosen the Boston section since it brought me to places I’ve never been in the past! Thanks a lot for watching, friend. Like and comment on the video if you liked it,
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Howdy howdy,
Boy, it’s been a while since I haven’t released a video on long-distance Amtrak. It’s time to finally take a look at the mighty Lake Shore Limited between Boston and Chicago… As always, an Amtrak journey is full of surprises
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Date: OCTOBER 2023
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Route : Boston South Station to Chicago Union Station
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00:00: Intro
00:49 : Boston South Station
02:13 : The Lake Shore Limited
02:55 : On the platform and composition
03:35 : Our engine
03:58 : Boarding
04:26 : Seat Check
04:58 : Departure / time of travel
05:25 : On Time performance
05:52 : Straight outta Boston
06:20 : Worcester, MA
07:03 : A chill afternoon
08:07 : Springfield, MA
09:06 : Relax
09:50 : Eastbound 448
10:06 : Apéro
10:30 : Shunting in Albany, NY
15:25 : Dinner
15:50 : Night time in coach
16:25 : Good morning
16:37 : Sunrise by John B
17:20 : Mid roll ads
17:42 : Crowd in South Bend, IN
18:15 : Waltkthrough
19:15 : Toilets Time
19:43 : Junction with Amtrak Michigan services
20:26 : Beautiful Gary, IN
20:40 : Price
21:00 : Earlier arrival in Chicago
21:17 : Amtrak Yard
21:46 : Thoughts about the Lake Shore Limited
22:25 : Outro
48 Comments
Hey folks, this will be the 'last' video of my voice-over experiment. Over the last four videos, I addressed the issues you guys pointed out in your feedback and applied them to this video. So if you liked this video, let me know in the comments below. If you did not like it and prefer the original subtitle format, let me know too.
I will post a poll on social media and on YouTube next week to determine whether we should continue with voice-over videos or go back to the subtitle format.
All the best, and enjoy the Lake Shore Limited.
Thibault
I like the voiceover better than subtitles as I find those distracting- I’m trying to read them while watching the scenery.
15:51 that is one of my stations
I've done the Cardinal, Silver Star, Silver Meteor (twice), and Night Owl overnight in Coach. honestly I slept about as well as I did on my Auto Train sleeper and I had a great time almost every single time, with the only exception being a break down on the Silver Meteor causing a 5-hour delay. plan on taking the LSL to Cleveland next month, hopefully the train is delayed because 3:53am arrival is a little too early and so is a 5:50am departure given that I won't be staying near the station. next time, I'll definitely head out to the platform to clean my window!
WoW! What an adventure! You were really roughing it with coach and cafe crap but glad you got a good night's sleep.
À Thibault, merci mille fois des vidéos. Et j'en profite pour vous souhaiter une très bonne année 2024. Lulú du Furet et famille
Cool booking tip: if you're traveling between Chicago and Albany book a seat on the Boston section (449/448) and save even more money.
Back when I rode coach a lot I would always know the high level stop where the window could be cleaned.
When I moved to rear of train photography which is a bit thicker.
Whilst travelling in coach, did u feel safe when going to cafe and leaving your stuff at seat and then at night, did most people respect keeping quiet at night?
Subtitle videos better😊
I like both formats….I dont always understand your accent but that's on me, not you. I do find that the more I listen, the better I get at it so your narration has been a good learning experience for me.
Man, why did he have to make the Lake Shore Limited video annoying. The LSL is one of my favorite Amtrak trains, and I don’t really like these videos where there aren’t subtitles.
Very nice to see this journey – thank you, Thibault! And, I like your voice-over.
I love the narration and use çlosed captioning, so i get the best of both.
Even true it's not a major point on this video, the Penn Central sold the Penn station air right in NY because they wanted to get rip of the station and it's mainly the Madison Square Garden complex that had been build in place, but there is also an office building that had been build on the airspace. At least the lost of the penn station had lead to the creation of the landmark preservation and that probably what save Grand Central to be demolish as well (even if the Pam Am building had been build next to the station).
Otherwise, I had use Amtrak night train twice on the former Montrealer train that used to connect Montreal to Washington via the Connecticut river. That train had been replace by the Vermonter … i don't remember when, but that's a long time ago …
Otherwise, I travel once on the Adirondack and in a few occasion on the Northeast direct (or his predecessor) beetween New York and Washington. Never try however the Acela or the previous higher speed service on the northeast corridor, the Metroliner.
You pointed out a major issue with train service in the US: TOO expensive!!
Please keep the voice over
Amtrak really needs to have North Station and South Station link up, (would likely cost ~$10bn to do so). It would help Amtrak and the MBTA Commuter Rail service so much. The "Northeast Regional" could then go all the way up to Portland, Maine; which would be a boon for that state.
1st, I prefer this format. 2nd, Thank you for visiting Boston again. I hope the next time you are back, the new Acela cars will be in service. Can you bring us this luck? 😛
Good to see you back on Amtrak!
I like both of your formats. Will keep watching no matter which one you choose.
Bro brave on coach 22 hours
I have taken the Lake Shore Limited many times from NYC to Rochester to see my family. A great train ride
We have the same GE diesel locomotives here in Romania. 2 stroke diesel :D. New England scenery is beautiful btw.
Please make one video on the mexico's new train service "tren maya" 🙏
The City of New Orleans is (barely) east of the Mississippi and uses superliners 😉😉. Awesome video!
After seeing what happened with Ku and So with their journey on the Lake Shore, it only makes sense to board from Boston instead and stick to coach! 😂😂😂
The Lake Shore used to have one of the worse on-time performace due to congestion in/out of Chicago I have to wonder if its improved performance is due to schedule padding or if they really fixed up congestion in the Chicago Area.
BTW, the northbound Adirondack I took at end of October had not oly the P32DC removed but also some coaches sleaving a much shorter train betwene Rensselear and Monrtréal. So there is a fair bit of manipulation of trains happening at Rensselear (on top of changing Pr32 to P42s so the 32 can go back to New York on next train heading south).
I say Rensselear because it is different from Albany. The station at Albany was on Broadway between Columbia on north and Steuben on south.
( 42.65147095174503, -73.74948135402707). The whole area betwen station and river were tracks/yards/port. And the railway bridge to get to station was where the Dunn Memorial Bridge (car) is today. The Albany Union station building still stands today, occupied by some financial company.
When New York central started to have financial difficulties, it decided to sell the Albany station and just build a small station in Rensselear and use the Livingston Ave bridge (on Google Amtrak Broadway bridge) and almost all the tracks along the river front were removed. The "shack" in Rensselear was rebuilt by Amtrak once the services would be known to continue, and in recent times, a more grand station built. (and an additional platform added in last 10 years). The next challenge is the replacement of Livingston Ave Bridge which is very unreliable when it needs to let ships pass. (it is a rotating bridge and they wish to replace with lift bridge).
The new York Central "water level" route was the fastest because it was flat. the 20th century Limited did the run in 16 hours. Today's Lakeshore in 19 hours 32 minutes. the Broadway Limites from Pennsulvania RR had to contend with the sinuous tracks to climb and descend the mountains while new York Central had very long sections of straight tracks.
It is a real shame the dining car is not operational. Got a real mean one on the Crescent betwen Wilmington DE and Alexandria VA (with a bike, you used to need to use a long distance train with baggage car, but now Amfleet can carry bikes, but not Amfleet 2 since those trains normally have baggage car).
The new CAF Viewliner dining cars are really nice with high ceiling and two rows of windows.
BTW, south of Rensselear, and south of Castleton on Hustdon there is the spectacular Alfred H Smith railway bridge very high over the Hudson. The freight trains from both Boston and New York use this bridge because it avoids the "steep" climb that Amtrak trains have to do between the Hudson river and the region west of Albany. (and being south of Albany, CSX has space for a yard on west side). trains from south have a long smooth climb from Hudson river which is easier that the climb Amtrak trains have to do. During their heydays, those roaiways built some very impressive structures.
still like to hear your voice appear in video, maybe you can keep voice and subtitle both?
eeewww voice over video again
Great video, Thibault. I'm loving the voice-over experiment. I'm not a fan of subtitles, which unfortunately, seem to be the trend these days. I didn't know that some people are having issues with the new format. Keep up the great work that you do.
No Masks!
I can barely sit for five hours to Chicago, let alone 22. Anything over five hours and I need a room.
Second video in a row that I can't watch for more than 5 min. The author has very heavy diction in English, you have to strain to understand. Unfortunately, I will be unsubscribing, too bad
Amtrak is awful oh, sorry awesome like PR.
I love long trains having at least 18-20 wagons.
Sorry. The cell hangs on its own. It has a mind of its own.
I did this round trip as part of a BOX-CHI-LAX-[bus]-BFD-OKJ[5 days in San Francisco]EMY-CHI-BOS in 2003. I've also taken it between Boston and Springfield or Pittsfield on a couple of occasions. Massachusetts, in conjunction with Amtrak, will be expanding service from Boston to Springfield and Albany in coming years, so it'll be more than just one train daily. My favorite trains I've ridden so far: the California Zephyr in the west, and the Adirondack in the east. The scenery on the Adirondack is particularly beautiful along the Hudson River and Lake Champlain.
Very interesting, enjoyed the video, I love to ride the trains myself, thanks for sharing
i've ridden the Southwest chief to Chicago twice, the Captial limited from Chicago to DC and back once, a NEC regional, a acela and two Hiawatha service trains. so far my favorite has been the Capital Limited but this was pre service cuts back in 2017 so i don't think id enjoy it now with how butchered it's become.
I liked it very much, I don't understand English and in this format I can translate the subtitles into my language, keep it up please
Bring back the subtitle man. Its more relaxing.😊
Please make a video about tren maya and tren interoceánico in Mexico.
Great trip. Looks like you enjoying Amtrak Coach Class, since the seating and legroom is better than common seating class attached at sleeper train.
Unfortunately Gary, Indiana is one of the worst cities in America. Nothing fantastic about it.
I used to be a regular commuter on this train – if you book a little further in advance, you can get a coach seat between Boston and Chicago for less than $100!
Also, if you just can't sleep sitting up, you can lie down behind the last row of seats in the coach…or ride from Boston to Albany in coach and change to the sleepers in Albany (the price difference between a ALB-CHI sleeper and a BOS-CHI sleeper can sometimes be a couple hundred dollars!)
ALSO…Thibuault really undersells the scenery on this route. Between Worcester and Albany you're winding through beautiful New England woods along the banks of happy little streams and next to picturesque little lakes while the Berkshire mountains rise on either side of you…maybe it's because I'm a native New Englander but I've got a soft spot for that kind of thing :). Also, you go right through the middle of US Steel's Gary Steelworks. Only a small bit of the original plant is still in use, and the rest has been left to rot. Mile after mile of collapsing factory buildings, rusting lift bridges, empty ship berths, and grimy shunting locomotives. It is the least natural landscape I have ever seen, and I'll never forget it.
Subtitles vs. Audio. I say do both, a couple of subtitle videos and then an audio one.
I took the Lakeshore Limited back in September in coach. It was a great trip and only delayed once. I would do this again in a heartbeat!
I rode the LSL on Nov 4, and that BOS sleeper still had the flat wheel. what a racket. Another feature of being in that car, is that you have to walk the whole train to get to the diner.