Paris’s Newest Trams and What We Can Learn From Them

This video is sponsored by Nebula, the educational streaming service created by me and my creator friends. Check out the link in the description for the Nebula exclusive video or stay tuned to learn more. We were in Paris a few months ago to check out the massive  Grand Paris Express project

That will add over 200km of new suburban metro to the Ile-de-France. But metro expansion isn’t all that’s happening in Paris. There’s also the giant RER  E extension to La Defense, the new CDG airport Express train, and the topic of today’s video: many new trams.

Trams are great, and tram trains  are all the rage these days. So when Paris newest tram line, the T12, opened back in December, we decided we needed to take a look, to see what an express tram in Paris is like. So let’s dive in. I’m Reece and this is RMTransit, a channel

About trams and trains. The Paris tram system is really cool because it’s been entirely built  or rebuilt since the 1990s, and today it has 14 lines with over 250 stops and around 200kms of track, which is big. It’s a huge network, but it’s also super modern.

This video isn’t an explainer  of the Paris tram network, from the rubber tired T5 to the looping T3, but if you’re interested in that, make sure you’re subscribed for a video on that coming very soon soon. So what’s the deal with T12? Well, its an express tram, which means that

In the Paris parlance it’s a tram train. But in many ways it feels like what Canada and the US call light rail, with coupled up trams operating in a number of different contexts. What do I mean? Well, T12 has three distinct sections. The northern section is a mainline railway

Converted for tram train use; The centre section is an almost rapid transit-like leg that parallels a highway; and the final southernmost  leg feels like a typical urban tram, serving a business park and a suburban town centre. The northern leg of the line runs from Massy, where the stabling yard is

Located, south along a former railway line that was one of the RER C’s confusing branches that loops back on itself. This is where the line really stretches its tram train vehicles, which are the Citadis Dualis trams, the model which the infamous Citadis Spirit trams used in Canadian light rail systems were based on.

These vehicles are kind of different from other low-floor trams in that they have a master segment that has two bogies that the other tram segments hang off of. Now, the old RER C branch has wide curves, high top speeds, and the kind of crossing gates that you’d expect on a railway line

That certainly gives this section of the route an express feeling, and which also still feels much more train than tram. After it dips off the rail right-of-way, the T12 serves a stop that has a park-and-ride and a walkway over to the nearby RER C station, since the RER-C used to branch here.

The line then weaves under  and around the rail line over to a highway or auto route, with some tight curves and steep grades on a mix of single and double track. The ability to pretty seamlessly and inexpensively run from one right-of-way context to another pretty obviously makes the case

For tram trains, letting  you kind of stitch together multiple sections of long straight right-of-way to create an express line, without having to build large tunnels or  elevated sections in between to link up those rights-of-way. Once running along the highway, T12 has very few crossings, with lots of straight auto route-adjacent

Track that really lets it get up to speed and feel a bit like rapid transit, also letting it serve the large housing estates in the area and also connecting to a busway that will form part of the future T Zen 4 — not quite a bus not quite a tram — bus route.

What’s interesting is that T12 actually even weaves from one side of the highway to the other, providing stops on both sides, which is admittedly a better solution than running in the median of the highway and providing very unpleasant stops for passengers waiting there. I think this highlights why cost-effective

Infrastructure construction is so important. I often talk about how Paris being able to build transit for less money than Canada, the US, Australia, or the UK lets it build more projects, but it also — on the margin — lets it build better projects. When you can build more cost effectively,

In the same project you might build a bridge or tunnel where you might not be able to afford it if your costs are higher. The final leg of T12 sees the line head out of the highway right-of-way to serve a suburban business park in typical tram fashion,

Before heading to the town centre of Evry with a stop just a block or two from the RER D station in the area. This section feels a lot more like a typical tram route, with more road crossings and tram tracks running  right next to the main road.

All in all, T12 runs 20 or so kilometres, and with 16 stops it has a very wide stop spacing that makes sense with this express moniker. At present, headways are  actually surprisingly low: every 20 minutes for most of the day and every 15 minutes during peak hours. The line could operate more frequently,

But it doesn’t necessarily need to since the line is super fast, connects to rail stations with tons of service, and  takes people pretty directly to their final destinations as a tram after all. What’s interesting about  this line as I said before, is that it reminds me a lot of light rail

Schemes in North America, particularly with its 90m platforms and light rail vehicles that are extremely similar to those we’re deploying in cities like Toronto. But as just tends to be the case for transit in Europe, the T12 is so much better-executed on multiple different levels

From the light rail lines we’ll see in Canada. For one, the line is anchored at both ends by substantial RER stations, with another connection in the middle. I made an entire video about a similar line in Toronto, which will use those same Citadis Spirit vehicles

And which connects at one end to a subway line but ends a few kilometres short of a regional rail line on the other end. The line also makes much better use of existing infrastructure and right of way, which is kind of a given for parts of it

Since this is a tram train after all. But while in North America, new sections of such a route would likely be built down the middle of a suburban street where rails aren’t already available, the sections of T12 along the highway show how to get lots of speed and few grade crossings

By using an existing road corridor, which all means that most of the T12’s route is express as opposed to just part of it being. T12 is also a good reminder that a line does not need to be all double-track. Trains and trams don’t work like cars and roads,

And they don’t need separate unidirectional travel lanes in both directions for their entire route. This flexibility and integration between infrastructure and scheduling lets a transit line run quickly and frequently on infrastructure that can cost less and fit in more places. The design of everything is also just so much more attractive.

The vehicles look sleek and modern naturally, but everything is nice. The catenary is minimal, with few extra wires and even the support poles look good. Green track is used extensively and extends directly onto the lawns of adjacent properties. It just amazes me that in North America we managed to design and build stuff

That looks so much less put together and all at a much higher price, from the cluttered look of the infrastructure to the poor finishing on  the pavings and the stops. I mean, just compare the way the green track, which covers a great deal of the T12 route,

Seamlessly extends out from both of the rails compared to our sorry attempt at green track on the Eglinton line in Toronto. And the care and thoughtfulness of design isn’t only visible in the line’s aesthetic, it’s also functional in the route and right-of-way planning and design. For one, the tram is typically always aligned

At the side of the street, which reduces conflicts and means that trams don’t have to go through the middle of large suburban intersections — not that many exist in Paris anyways. Many of the intersections the tram passes through are actually unsignalized, which means that drivers have to be

More cautious and trams can go faster. It’s the kind of thing that I don’t think you’d get away with in North America, where were obsessed with following the rules and signalizing every intersection, but it allows for this sort of give and take that leads to things actually flowing better at street level.

What’s great is that the trams also basically get complete priority over cars. While this is achieved on the northern railway section of the route using crossing gates, as with on many railways, on the southern section of the route, a similar effect is achieved  by using small, minimal

Two aspect signals, which provide most of the priority, while lacking most of the visual clutter of typical gates. At a high level, trams function so well on the T12 and on other routes in Paris because they act like their own entire layer of transport placed above the road system.

Instead of trams operating in the middle of a street and following the same rules that other road vehicles, usually carrying a single person, have to follow. Streets are usually redesigned to elevate the tram rather than place it in conflict with cars and other road users. And that’s the thing we need to

Learn the most from. Now, we’ve talked a lot about Paris T12 with its very unique tram train sensibilities and how it fits into the city’s geography and landscape. But as I mentioned earlier in the video, it’s not the only tram train service in the city,

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47 Comments

  1. Dang what a coincidence, i got fined 35 euros some hours ago in a Paris tram because i forgot to validate my ticket (first time i use them)

  2. Since so much of it is off-street, wouldn't citytrains like calgary ctrain have made more sense? Because you often criticize north american light rail systems (and including the IBX plan) for going off street but using low floor trams. Sure, the business park wouldn't look as nice but it would be worth it if it means simpler, cheaper, and possibly also faster vehicles. (For faster, I mean that LA light rail trains can hit over 65mph while Seattle only hits 55 mph, even if both systems have way too many tunnels and viaducts)

  3. You managed to get hte Skateboarding Rhino ( one of the T12 train wth a yellow wrapping explaining that a tramway weight about 30 rhinos ), nice.
    ( I get to see it on a regular basis as I take the train from Massy regylarly )
    Small note : the tracks used by the T12 are not a former railway line ( 2:03 ), they are still used, just not for the RER C . ( there's lots of freight train that uses it as it's part of the Grande Ceinture that surrounds Paris. )

  4. This feels a lot like the blue line in the twin cities. Downtown it's like a streetcar with dedicated lanes but as it gets further out it uses old freight rail lines with gates and such next to the street. It also has short tunneled and elevated sections that feel more rapid transit.

  5. Semi off topic : if you do something about the T2 and the T4, dig very hard in the history, they used to be train lines ( except for a branch of the T4 ). And in the case of the T2 the line was closed for decades before the tramway was built on it. ( while they only closed the Coquetier Line, as it was called, to rebuild the tracks and adapt the infrastructure for the T4 )

  6. I'm a regular user of the T12 and i'm a bit disapointed because the last departures are ealier than announced and they doesn't run on thé entier Line , and on Peak hours trams are often crowded. But when the RER C served the stations between Petit vaux et Massy, trains were not crowded at all times and it was very easy to get Versailles, Juvisy or Paris but the service ended earlier than the T12.

  7. How close is the nearest Paris tram line to the centre of the city? It looks like a nice tram system for suburban areas but not like Vienna, Prague or Zurich where there is street running in the city centres close to historical sights etc.

  8. what i do not like about express trams, is that they 'ought to' have a capped speed, meaning that they reach a low max speed. What i think is better is a light suburban train that can share infrastructure with the tram but still have metro or regional rail speeds. Otherwise, the parallel bus routes may be just as practical, making the tram more of a decoration.

  9. As a French person, it's funny to see someone praise our infrastructure. Everyone's complaining because the T12 has major issues at launch and the low frequency has taken a toll on its popularity. 15 minutes is absolutely not enough right now, RER trains run much more frequently than this and move more people, so currently the T12 is a bottleneck for many people who were used to having the RER C line. I think the T12 is a good idea overall, but the frequency is bad. If I'm not wrong, they have issues recruiting tram drivers.

  10. it is a light rail system that operates on a graded and non-graded corridor using coupled 4 segment low floor light vehicle sets.

    Trams/streetcars are light rail vehicles.

  11. 8:21 Are there really countries where trams have to follow the rules of the road despite not being road vehicles? 🤔

    Here in Sweden trams are governed by their own legislation, and the road rules say everyone – road vehicles, pedestrians, bicyclists – must not only yield but leave the roadway clear for trams (same rule as for trains and emergency vehicles) unless road signs or signals indicate otherwise. (We only have four cities with trams, so most drivers don’t learn this rule though. 😏)

    BTW, interesting that the tram is run by CNCF and not the municipal transit authority. 🤔

  12. I can’t help feeling like you’d be criticising a North American tram that had single track sections, 4 tph frequency, and grade crossings.
    Perhaps some of your mandatory requirements for a good system aren’t so mandatory?

  13. Hmm. I can easily imagine that, in a world where North American trans were unsignalized, we’d be blaming that and suggesting they’d be better with signals (and signal priority).

  14. Frequency is not that much of an issue as most people would be used to it as an RER branch, but maybe an extra train that short-turns on the southern most segment where its very urban and could benefit from a bit more service if needed

  15. Tram trains are definitely a North American thing. Usually using a tram where a commuter train would be a better option (my own city of Denver is VERY guilty of this). New York MTA should take notes from this Paris tram train as something like this would work very well for the IBX since they decided to go with trams for the IBX.

  16. Guys the T12 (and T13 by the way) is a fail… This line considerably deteriorated the RER C and the service in genaral. The link between Evry and Massy was needed but they should just have made a connection with the RER C or maybe found a way to operated dual service with trains and trams… The inauguration was deteriorated because of unfinished stations and lack of conductors and also some citadis dualis are likely to start breaking down like they do on the T4 (Not mentionning the lack of capacity compared to an RER C train). The line V they created because of T12 is just a PR communication by IDFM as they always do…
    Sorry guys to deceived y'all but life in Paris transports is not always on the bright side and people like me are starting getting really mixed feelings about the stupid decisions of deceitful organizations like Ile-de-France Mobilités.
    If you don't believe me just wait for the 2024 olympics to see how much of a mess it will be transports here after years of ineptitude…

  17. Hi, love your content. You rock. I'd just like to suggest you to cover the commuter rails of India in a video. I find them fascinating because some of them move absolutely huge numbers of people and have high frequencies, yet in many cases remain overcrowded and continues to use old infrastructure. I'd love to see a video talking about your take on how improvements can be made to these railways and if anything can be applied from these railways elsewhere.

  18. For comparison, only a few cities in UK have trams. Namely Edinburgh, Manchester, Nottingham and Sheffield. London does have it but only in one area. Belfast, Bristol, Leeds, Liverpool, maybe even Norwich and Reading should have one already. Basically any city over 250,000. Trams are clearly better in that not only do they have move capacity than a bus, but is also entirely on electric. I think that Leeds is actually working on a new tramway after the ~2002 cancellation. For comparison, Over 20 cities in France has a tramway.

  19. Paris is what New York (and London to a lesser extent) would be like if they properly maintained their transit infrastructure, and built new ones when necessary.

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