Retire and Live in Southern Spain: Good, Bad or just UGLY?

    if you’re thinking about moving abroad
    there’s a really good chance you’re
    considering this country for your future
    home nearly 60,000 Americans have
    already chosen to live here and a lot of
    them tell us how much they love it but
    is it still a good place to live as an
    xpad in this video we’re going to put it
    to the test and see how it ranks on the
    10 factors that matter most when you’re
    choosing a place to live abroad and
    stick around until the end because we’re
    going to do a cost of living rollup and
    a residency Visa overview if you haven’t
    figured it out yet we’re talking about
    Spain since Spain is a big country at
    least by European standards we’re going
    to review the region called Andalusia in
    southern Spain that stretches from
    Portugal over to the Mediterranean Sea
    the first Factor we’re going to look at
    is safety and stability we’re from the
    America so safety is something we think
    about every time we post a video and
    talk about safety we get comments from
    our European viewers how they think it’s
    so funny that when Americans do videos
    on YouTube we always talk about safety
    when they just take it for granted it’s
    not something something that they really
    spend a lot of time worrying about but
    we do coming from the United States and
    Latin America it’s just not as safe as
    Europe Spain is known for its safety we
    walked all over the place day and night
    and we never felt nervous we saw kids
    out playing by themselves we took public
    transportation and we never felt like we
    were being targeted as tourists in terms
    of stability Spain had snap elections in
    2023 there have been protest about the
    kadalin independence there been there
    was even a political assassination
    attempt in Madrid during our visit so
    bottom line is Spain is experiencing
    some turmoil like every other country
    right now we’re going to give Spain a
    thumbs up for this Factor despite some
    of the political issues that they’re
    having right now our next factor is
    weather and natural disasters and when
    you think a southern Spain you think
    about warm or even hot temperatures all
    year round if you have a fist full of
    dollars that’s enough to see The Good
    the Bad and the Ugly in southern Spain
    and for a few dollars more you can just
    skip the Bad and the Ugly although
    thanks for the flashbacks that just
    reminded me watching those old Clintwood
    movies with my dad back in the day I
    remember watching those Spaghetti
    Westerns as a kid with my dad too that
    was our Saturday afternoon ritual to sit
    down and watch Clint Ewood sweat on
    television most of those movies were
    filmed in this region of Andalusia and
    the deserts that are there they get
    their name spaghetti from the Italian
    directors who made the films if you want
    to sweat like Clint Eastwood then you’re
    going to want to be there in the summer
    because it gets really hot here too hot
    for a lot of people like B it actually
    hit 111° F or 44° C last July in Malaga
    and they hit a record 102° fah or 39° C
    in cot last April we didn’t need a coat
    in Seville or in Mala when we were there
    in November and December it’s a great
    area to visit or spend the entire winter
    and we were actually Chile and Granada
    ailia had to buy a winter coat yes I did
    let’s talk about natural disasters
    they’ve been experiencing a yearlong
    drought and some of those Rivers are dry
    and there’s also a chance of earthquake
    in this region in fact they had three
    earthquakes in Granada in 2021 that did
    cause minor damage so we’re going to
    give this factor a thumbs down for Spain
    if you want to live there year round
    because it just gets so hot in the
    summer it is a great place to live
    during October to April so you can just
    avoid the summer months you can go to
    Northern Spain our next factor is
    quality of life and you can have a high
    quality of life in this region yeah the
    Spaniards actually live quite a bit
    longer than us Americans and and that
    could because they really value their
    personal time they have emphasis on
    family and friends and having a social
    life people seem really happy for the
    most part we observed and heard multiple
    people singing while they worked Spain
    also has a lot of history and culture
    lots of museums cultural activities and
    you can take some flamco classes if you
    want to if you’re an outdoors person
    you’re going to be happy because you’ve
    got the hiking you’ve got beaches and
    you’ve got outdoor shopping there are a
    lot of people living in this area from
    other countries so you’ll have the
    opportunity to interact with locals and
    foreign residents from all over the
    world locals were mostly friendly
    especially in Granada we found them very
    welcoming and most people were overall
    although we did experience some tourist
    fatigue especially in Seville which is
    not surprising because we were there
    during the lower season and there were
    still a lot of tourists yeah in fact
    2023 set a record for tourists in Spain
    they had 85 million tourists in 2023 and
    to put that in perspective the country
    only has a population of 47 million
    people almost double the number of
    tourists last year we’re going to give
    on the luciia a big old thumbs up for
    quality of life yeah despite the tourist
    because you might even live longer
    healthc care and health insurance is the
    next Factor we’re going to look at Spain
    ranks high for public and private
    healthcare it’s ranked number 26 by CEO
    world as a new Resident you’re going to
    have to get Private health insurance but
    it is much more affordable compared to
    the US prices are going to range
    anywhere from $60 to 200 maybe even a
    little bit more per person per month and
    it depends on so many factors like your
    age yeah and also your smoking habits if
    you just want to pay cash and go see a
    doctor it’s only like $50 to $60 for an
    office visit without insurance so it’s
    so affordable compared to what we’re
    used to in the US and after you’ve been
    living there for a year you can apply
    for the public health insurance yeah so
    we’re going to give Spain a big thumbs
    up for healthc care language barrier is
    the next Factor we’re going to discuss
    and Spain Spanish is hard they drop
    letters they don’t pronounce everything
    the same way that we’re used to like the
    S sounds like a th so instead of graus
    it’s grath and instead of saying day Nat
    for your welcome they just say Nat so it
    took a little bit of getting used to
    actually we never really got used to it
    and they speak so much faster than what
    we’re used to in Latin America however
    the locals really did warm up to us once
    we started speaking Spanish so it makes
    a big difference you got to put yourself
    out there and speak some Spanish yeah
    but we’re going to give Spain a thumbs
    down for the language barrier Factor
    just because it was so hard for us and
    it’s so much easier for us to speak
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    the lifetime plan walkability and public
    transportation is the next factor and
    you won’t need a car in Spain which
    means you’ll save hundreds of dollars
    per month and reduce that stress from
    driving so easy to walk around there we
    logged hundreds of miles and I had to
    buy new shoes if you don’t want to walk
    though you’ve got the Metro trams buses
    taxis and Uber the train system is
    awesome we loved it you can take the
    train throughout Spain and we took it
    from Seville to Granada it was only $5
    per ticket and then we took it from
    Granada de Miga for $25 a ticket we’re
    giving this factor a big thumbs up for
    walkability and transportation housing
    is the next factor and according to
    eeday alista the average rental in the
    region is € 10.8 per square meter or 1
    EUR per square foot so 100 square met or
    1,000 s foot condo will run you around
    $1,100 per month and that’s on average
    the average place by the beach in Malaga
    however is going to be more expensive
    there are some very high-end condos
    there so that could we saw a place for
    rent that was $10 ,000 for a massive
    Penthouse to give you an idea in general
    though you can find furnish rentals
    for500 for a studio or up to 1700 or
    more depending on the location and the
    size thumbs up for housing here
    especially compared to prices in the
    United States food and restaurants is
    the next Factor the main grocery stores
    in Spain are carfor which is actually a
    French chain there’s Aldi which is
    German and then there’s Maradona they
    also have lots of small stores and big
    marcados you can find a variety of fresh
    fruits and vegetables and Specialty
    Foods such as vegan gluten-free and
    Asian and lots and lots of Olives way
    too many olives I think we’re still
    carrying a few of those olives with us
    the dining out is wonderful there
    there’s lots of variety casual fine
    dining International Cuisine it’s a
    coffee wine and beer culture and we were
    surprised to see so many people drinking
    at lunch in their business attire
    restaurants close at 4: or 4:30 and they
    close 3 to 4 hours and it was pretty
    hard for us to get used to this since we
    are used to eating on an earlier time
    frame dinner starts at 8 or 8:30 and
    places don’t start to fill up until 9:00
    or even later which was also pretty hard
    for us to get used to yeah I’m not sure
    we’ll ever get used to eating dinner at
    9 or 10:00 at night the average price
    for lunch was $15 to $30 and dinner was
    around $50 to $70 and that was for two
    people unless you’re in some of the
    popular tourist areas where the prices
    were double or even triple that was kind
    of shocking actually yeah so as long as
    you eat outside of the main tourist
    areas it’s very very affordable we were
    kind of surprised so we’re going to give
    Spain a big thumbs up for food and
    restaurants taxes is the next factor and
    we’re going to start by talking about
    sales tax the vet there is 21% but that
    is not across the board there’s a big
    range and it goes all the way down to 4%
    yeah and the vet is actually included in
    the price of the item so if you see a
    sticker that says € that’s all you’re
    going to pay it’s not like the US they
    tack on the 21% on top of that but it is
    still in the price it’s just factored
    into the sticker let’s talk about income
    tax if you live in Spain for 183 days a
    year you’re going to become a tax
    resident and they tax everything
    including your Social Security and your
    pension income yeah and also earned
    income they do have a tax treaty with
    the United States to avoid double
    Taxation and they have special breaks
    for digital Nomads and other tax
    incentives however the tax rate in Spain
    is very high high so that needs to be
    factored into your decision to live
    there so we are giving this a thumbs
    down for taxes cost of living is the
    last factor that we’re going to talk
    about before we cover the be’s and you
    can have a really nice quality of life
    for a relatively low cost of living in
    Spain the housing costs are about
    $11,000 a month I think that would be a
    good budget maybe 25 per month for your
    cell phone another 35 for your internet
    50 for the other utilities so maybe
    about $1,100 toal toal for housing we’re
    budgeting $600 per month per person for
    food and $100 per month per person for
    health insurance yeah and yours may be
    higher depending on what you eat and how
    much your health insurance costs and you
    want to budget in some Miss Lady’s items
    such as entertainment haircut and
    transportation so we put in $100 for
    that as well yeah so a total for a
    single would be around $1,900 per month
    and for a couple maybe $2,700 a month
    might be a good average budget if you
    take medications or you want to travel
    back home a lot you will need to budget
    for that yeah that could cost it quite a
    bit more this is just a general
    guideline for you it’s obviously going
    to vary by person but it’s certainly a
    lot cheaper than the United States to
    live in Spain so we’re going to give
    this factor a big thumbs up before we
    reveal the tally let’s talk about
    residency Visa options starting with the
    non-lucrative VISA this is a passive
    income Visa meaning you cannot work it’s
    often considered Spain’s retirement visa
    and for this one you’re going to need a
    approximately €
    28,800 per year or €400 per month you
    have to apply for the Visa outside of
    Spain and you have to get Private health
    insurance and it cannot be travel
    insurance it has to work inside of Spain
    that means Medicare Medicaid will not
    qualify they have an investor visa you
    have to invest 500,000 EUR it’s what the
    current number is there have been talks
    about either increasing this amount or
    just eliminating the golden Visa
    entirely Spain has a digital Nomad visa
    and for for this one the income
    requirement is at least 200 times
    minimum wage which is approximately €500
    per month it’s valid for 12 months and
    you can renew it up to five times and
    you can apply for this one with within
    the country and they do have special
    income tax rates for this particular
    Visa I think a score of 7 out of 10 is
    pretty darn good A lot of people have
    moved to Spain and they really like it
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    When you’re considering a place to live abroad, several important factors influence your decision, like safety, healthcare, cost of living, etc.

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    0:00 Intro
    0:42 Safety & Stability in Spain
    1:44 Weather & Natural Disasters
    3:22 Quality of Life in Southern Spain
    4:44 Healthcare & Health Insurance
    7:27 Walkability & Public Transportation in Spain
    8:04 Housing in Andalucia
    8:45 Food & Restaurants in Southern Spain
    10:10 Taxes in Spain
    11:07 Cost of Living in Southern Spain
    12:17 Spain Residency Visa Options
    13:16 Wrap-up

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    41 Comments

    1. The language barrier you'll created yourself, when I moved to the US from Cuba I had to learn English, an English kind of different to the one I've had learned ( British)

    2. Why did you give Spain a thumbs down for the language barrier? Is it Spains fault that you cannot understand them or yours?

    3. In case you get to Spain and discovered that, Holy Crap! Only in the most expensive tourist areas with the rudest, nastiest Brits can I find people who speak English and I don’t speak Spanish then, you're really going to need my free lexicon. Truth is, I don’t have anything to see. You want it? It's yours. As a lifelong American myself who is leaving the US BECAUSE of English, I kinda got obsessed with becoming a Spaniard. You don’t need my philosophy but, you might need my lexicon. Also on Ama-whatever as a book .

    4. I am from northern Spain, Andaluzia is beautiful, but the temperatures during summer are deathly. The pronunciation is proper: "c" sounds like a "c" no "s", try to go to England and correct their pronunciation.

    5. Amelia & JP, l enjoy your videos! It would be great if you could give some details about tax brackets for expat retirees as well. Italy just increased taxes for expats!😬

    6. What puts me off about moving to France/Spain/German/Italy is that they don't have small houses with gardens in cities. In London we do. I don't want to live in a condo, however luxurious

    7. It is not a nice place to retire because summer is too crowded, winter is died out. Only spring and automn is nice. And prices for hotels and restaurants are high, because most are open only in high season due to customer demand. When you must earn in a few months for a whole year, it is stressful and you need to charge higher prices.

      Much more constant and relaxed in canary islands. And it is ways cheaper there.

    8. As an expat retiree I found Spain to be: crowded, pricey and getting worse, and very uncomfortable 1/2 of the year. Older expats lived as "shut-ins" during daylight hours too much of the time to make Spain attractive as a retirement living option.

    9. Same problems in Spain as US. My friend had a house in Spain which was occupied by squatters she had a hard time removing.

    10. Spain isn’t Latin America it’s Europe. Never heard of air-con? 85 mill tourists equals COVID fatigue no travel status. The taxes and visa stuff is enough to make it a no go for the most part.

    11. Even for Latin American spanish native speakers is hard to understand Spanish people, they speak too fast and many times their accent is too strong.

    12. Is really hard to understand , they really talk very fast , but Andalucía’s accent is interesting , is music and funny, and the people are super sweet.❤️❤️

    13. Spain is really a very cool country in which to retire. Quality of life is top of the list.

      Communication in Spanish ought to be top of your agenda. Life becomes generally easier to manage.

      ''¡Con pan y vino se puede andar por el camino. Pero si bebe para olvidar no se olvide pagar!''

      "With a morsel of bread and a dash of wine you can promenade down the pathway of life.
      However, if you drink to forget, don't forget you have to pay!"

    14. Do you happen to know what they are taxing people on their income…I wonder how to find that out. I did hear that the "golden visa" was not longer a valid visa option as of 2024, but am not sure when (if) that will be 100% official.

    15. Way too expensive in Spain!!!, a friend of mine just got back from a one-month stay over there, I would focus maybe on Argentina for a 10th of the cost of Spain with the same amenities. .

    16. The Big down vote for Spain IS the lacks of rivers and mature. There is still wonderfull places with great beauty but not so expontaneous mature like northern or latinamerican countries

    17. What’s a situation for a spaniard returning to live to spain when retirement from USA? my hubby planning to return to spain him and I when he retires.

    18. Sorry but the hot is in the south of Spain and the air conditioning is every where and we have the beaches. Sorry Spain has not ranked 26???who said ???Bloomberg said the 3. And OMS said spain is 7 and for many is the best So CEO World is nobody

    19. It's just that you don't say grasias, is gracias and the c is not s, in spanish. Spanish is not english and the pronunciation and the letters do not read the same and in the south they don't pronounce s the same as the rest of spain.And in all languages ​​when they speak it seems that they run . And sorry but is not the same the spanish of america than the spanish in Spain. As is not the same the english of USA the english of England.

    20. Yikes. $1100/month for housing would be 50% of monthly expenses which is super high! Isn't the recommended amount 30%? I was considering going to Malaga in May to check it out, but I've been reading that rents have skyrocketed over the past 2 years. It's insane. Everywhere is becoming so expensive lately due to all the conflicts going on.

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